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From the lore of the Predator species, a Predator who goes for a hunt is trying to prove they are worthy of adult status in their society. As each Predator dies in the film they fail to attain adult status in their society.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

According to material online to become blooded they need to hunt and kill a xenomorph to mark themselves with the acidic blood. This allows them privilege to hunt solo.

So the Predator film (1&2) Yautja wouldn't have been un blooded predators.

The AVP films though.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's an intriguing thought. So AVP1 is a sucessful coming of age story, but only for the main predator and the final girl.

Well that explains why I've always found it strangely heartwarming.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's non-sequitur. Predators go on more than one hunt in their lives. Your statement would only be valid if their 1st hunt was their only one.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's not what non-sequitur means.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

How do you define it, then? The definition I'm aware of is for an inference that doesn't follow from the premise.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Literally, you're right - in Latin it means "not following". But in conventional usage, non-sequitur is more for things that are so completely out of place for the conversation.

Not a non-sequitur: "Okay, so based on this finding, [insert something topical but wrong]".

Non-sequitur: "Okay, so that's great, but Michigan beating Ohio State means this is irrelevant".

(edit because I did not realize the formatting I used for my non-sequitur example caused it not to render)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Your definition for non-sequitur is correct, however the conclusion that Predators are failing to come of age is a logical conclusion of the stated premise. The actual issue, which you pointed out, is that of using a false or faulty premise (that all Predators in the movies are on their first hunts). The validity of an argument isn’t a function of how true a premise is. So you were right that op was wrong in their conclusions, you just mislabeled the issue

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's all about the same movie series canon, none of this is non-sequitur. They would have to be talking about Predator canon and then just start talking about Terminator or something. And even that's not a great example, because Arnold is in both of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

One really shouldn't pay more than $15 for a big mac. It's just not that high in price yet even with inflation.

☝️That is a non-sequitur

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Do you know those moving strips in the airport that are like horizontal escalators? In my mind that's a sequitur, so a non sequitur would be just a piece of floor

......Anyway thank you for reading

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

A non-sequitur would be walking 5 feet across the floor and finding yourself in a jungle somewhere. In a place not connected to the place you just came from.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The predator in the movie has several trophy skulls from other species on his spacecraft. He's just a trophy hunter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

He probably died because he had too many skulls on

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So they’re killing child predators and you're complaining?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Defending themselves from adolescents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do the xenomorphs also have rituals about killing predators, or is this more of a one-way knockout game situation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

One way I would guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

So it's their My Girl?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Predator films where the ~~a~~ Predator dies

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Do you mean like Predator films? Because I don't think tigers and velociraptors have coming of age rituals.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sort of like when a kid's drafted at the age of 18, and dies in a jungle on the far side of the planet, without ever once having lived as an adult in his home world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unless the kid went through many years of training then volunteers to go the jungle explicitly to hunt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

If he dies in that jungle it’s all the same