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I'm planning to set up a CCTV system to watch around a building. Anybody running Shinobi or something? And if so, what hardware are you using? I bought some cheapo v380s but the ones I got are honestly hot garbage.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Blink works well without the subscription if you buy the parts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not the cheapest, but I have had very good luck with Synology. Works with almost every camera on the market, including everything that supports ONVIF or RTSP. Good client software for web, desktop, and mobile. Has tons of tweaks and features.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I second this. Good things to know include:

  • Each Synology NAS comes with Surveillance Station licenses for 2 cameras. You can use any 2 compatible cameras. You can switch out cameras for new ones, as long as it's just 2.

  • If you need more than 2 cameras you can buy additional license pack bundles to add different numbers of cameras. These additional licenses are tied to that Synology NAS box. My understanding is that you can't take them with you to a new NAS. This isn't a problem for most people (who are gonna use that NAS for 6-10 years), but it is good to be informed when you're making platform choices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I built a box with a standard PC case and a xeon v2 wfor zoneminder, and just slapped a second hand hyper 212 evo on there

I would say go for a v4 over the v2 because the efficiency is much better. You will probably just want 1 core per camera + a few to account for OS + container overhead, so more cores + efficiency is better here

I have some crappy reolink cameras through a unmanaged POE switch, up to a managed switch (cheapo tp link gigabit) so the camera and NVR are on one VLAN. I set some firewall rules in my eouter (edgerouter x) to let me connect to the NVR but block the cameras. Not ideal, but it works.

Perhaps better would be to use a NIC and connect directly to the unmanaged switch so there's no need to VLAN, but I'm not using this for anything crazy, and i can still get gigabit speeds to the NVR

Also using a used enterprise 6tb drive for storage. Works fine and has been going strong for a year. They're a fraction of the cost of a new drive, and are usually pulled well before theyre ready to fail

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I take it zoneminder doesn't support HW acceleration? Frigate uses very little CPU due to running OpenVINO and VAAPI, but I don't think it supports hardware as old as the Xeon v4

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It uses ffmpeg so you could use hardware acceleration, but I just have it recording 4 cameras direct to disk and decoding the substreams for restreaming to a monitor elsewhere

That being said, zoneminder is all kinds of jank and a bit slow

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Blue iris works quite well for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Frigate is fantastic, easy to setup, very simple UI. And it makes use of 6th gen and up Intel HW acceleration for object detection and encoding, so it's fast and very light on CPU usage.

For hardware Reolink is pretty decent for low cost, their 4k cameras run around $80-120 and as far as I know all support RTSP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I had a look at a bunch of different software platforms and settled on Blue Iris. It takes some tweaking but it's cheap and has a heap of different configuration options. That being said, the surveillance station stuff in Synology NAS drives is really good too. Very plug-and-play.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I started with zoneminder. When it worked, it worked "OK".

Getting AI-based object detection working in it, felt pretty hackish.

After it stopped working a few times, without notifications, I ended up picking up a blue iris license.

Blue Iris, itself, has been 100% rock solid. Its only disadvantage, it requires a windows device to run it on. (Although- there IS a docker container which emulates it using WINE). But- overall, it has every feature you could ever want in an NVR, and its reliability is hard to beat.

I run it on a 100$ optiplex with an i5-6500 and 8G of ram. There is a dedicated 8T HDD for long-term storage, and a cheap 500G "burner" NVMe for caching content, and batching to HDD.

I also, run Frigate. Its object detection is quite well, and REALLY FAST. (I want alerts BEFORE somebody is already knocking on my door). It does have a lot of NVR functionality, however, its not on the same level as blue iris. But- it does work extremely well for object detection.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm using raspberry pi zeros with motioneyeOS 😜 not the best hardware, but gets the job done on a budget

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've tried many, including QNAP and Zone minder in my RPi4. I've landed with Frigate on my RPI4. Works like a charm with 2 web cams. Much more than this and you will need a GPU like Coral but those are almost impossible to find. It's hooked up to Home Assistant for eg notifications.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Loving Frigate. Really straightforward and powerful. I use a couple Amcrest IP5M-T1179EB-28MM, very happy with them too.

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