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With spez ascending the last few remaining levels of becoming an absolute wanker, it's about time I got more active and I have been wondering how should I be using Lemmy efficiently? Like many I migrated from Reddit and I was primarly using Apollo to browse through my subscribed subreddits.

Over here on Lemmy.one, I have subscribed to communities and I scroll through my feed by sorting "All > Top Day" because sorting "All > Hot" means I end up seeing the same threads.

Then earlier today I discovered https://beehaw.org/communities where I found many communities I would love to subscribe to but then I got confused because I am also subscribed to more or less similar communities on lemmy.one.

I think I am sort of struggling to wrap my head around how lemmy really works and where I should be hanging out. It was easier on reddit in the sense that if I wanted to go LOTRmemes, there was only subreddit but here on Lemmy, there seem to be multiple instances of the same community :D

To top it off, it is proving hard to login to beehaw [probably the server is under stress] with the same details I use to login into Lemmy.one.

Not to forget there's also Kbin which I haven't even begun exploring. Phew.

ps - my apologies if I am sounding slightly incoherent as this is all new to me. If there is anyone out there who has this all figured out, I'd appreciate any help here.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't have to think of the servers as different entities, all servers are Lemmy, each one slightly different sure but you can participate in every server equally so nothing changes to you

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's becoming painfully clear that federation is the most confusing part for new people. It felt less so with Mastodon but the Reddit migration seems to be bigger. (I don't know since I was already on Mastodon a few years before the Muskaning) I think we need an easier way for people to understand how instances work.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Mastodons federation has become pretty seamless. Just browsing around, it seldom takes you off-instance.

Lemmy still does that a good bit, and it throws people off hard.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the algorithms are not quite doing what you expect, on top of server delays or whatever.

The way I am set up, I start in ALL and sort by HOT. If the post start to feel too familiar I will go by active, then new.

What I feel works the best however is to subscribe to all the communities that you are interested in (don't be precious) and you will find that the subscriptions page has the content you want. It is nice, they don't get lost, or you can jump into a single community and see all they have.

The most useful way to use lemmy of course is to post content.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going down the same rabbit hole and have struggled trying to figure out the fediverse. The other comments on your post explain things well. From my experience, I had to research which instance was federated and populated with what fits my interests, then sign up for it. Jerboa doesn't do well with it's search function yet, and I almost exclusively use the app to browse (I did so with Sync for Reddit ((3rd party app)) too and never used the browser unless I was looking up specific questions), but I did find out that when using a web browser to login to my instance they have a community browser that lists every and all communities locally and federated where you just hit Subscribe to. Once I subscribed to everything that peaked my interests I went back to my app (Jerboa for Lemmy) and sorted by Subscribed and New (or hot). I now have an experience very similar to that of using Sync for Reddit.

To answer your questions about seeing the exact same communities (instead of a singular subreddit) to subscribe to, it's just because each community is hosted on separate instances. Some of those instances are federated with yours (ie lemmy.world) but for users who are signed up on that particular instance may not have the same federations your instance has so they created their own version of the community.

Another comment on this post explains it well using minecraft as an example. (Idk how to cross-post or @ another user yet)

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of those instances are federated with yours (ie lemmy.world) but for users who are signed up on that particular instance may not have the same federations your instance has so they created their own version of the community.

Is this why I can read this while on kbin?
kbin has a 'federated' instance that's shared w/ lemmy?
i have no idea wtf I'm talking about. still trying to wrap my head around the fediverse.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Kbin is federated with basically every Lemmy instance that exists, so you can use Kbin to view, comment and post to other Fediverse instances.
You can kinda think of Kbin as being a Lemmy instance with a different paintjob (it isn't, but from a user perspective it's not that far off): Kbin user wants to read/comment/post to Beehaw.org Gaming community? https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]. Beehaw user wants to comment to Kbin Tech Magazine? https://beehaw.org/c/[email protected]

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hi there @JohnEdwa - I am a week late to respond to your comment but it helped me finally crack the basic level of understanding behind lemmy and kbin :) Not to forget the fact I can subscribe to different instances on Lemmy from lemmy.one which I signed up for when I joined Lemmy. Knowing what I now, I am able to check out other instances from Lemmy.one and subscribe to them!

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Now what might really cook your noodle is the info that the developers of the Lemmy software are pro-Russian genocide deniers, and there's a growing sentiment to not support that by dropping Lemmy in favor of kbin or something else.

Here's the best sourced info I found on the genocide topic: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/47012/-/comment/196579

Just as I was starting to get the hang of this, it feels like I stepped into another wasp nest.

Ookay, then let's look at kbin, right? Well, there's literally only ONE developer and the current version still very much a (good) beta version. So, not kbin either, then?

What's left? Beehaw, who act like snowflakes and have disconnected from where growth and interesting stuff is happening?

I feel pretty lost in the sea of the fediverse right now. Go back to Reddit? Naw, not right either.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Mostly just wanted to make my first comment

I haven't signed up for Lemmy. Between the Lemmy and Kbin I like this Kbin a heck of lot more and decided to sign up here.

I haven't abandoned Reddit and I have no plans on doing so. I'll probably be on both platforms if this one takes off or until Reddit becomes something like a Myspace. For now I'm just exploring here.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, you can always put one foot on each side. Make an account on both, use both a bit.

kbin has a better interface, in my opinion though, I'm cheering for them!

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the first time I hear about the Lenny developers being pro-Russian. Do you have any source where we can look into it?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Here's the best sourced info I found on the genocide topic: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/47012/-/comment/196579

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm curious about this Russian connection as well. This is the only related link I've found so far. Can anyone shed more light on this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/143o5xd/reconsidering_my_support_for_lemmy/