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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This person went through their entire career and never have met a bad programmer?

It's not just about the code. It's about delivery. I've worked with devs who are incompetent. I've worked with devs who write wild code for simple tasks.

And the whole "it's just a opinion." Like no?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Joel Spolsky (and his ubuquitous book/blog “Joel on Software”)

This is the first time I'm read this person's name. From the blog author's description, it seems like he has lots to say, but not a lot of it is worthwhile.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gasp Don't remind me how old I'm getting. Joel's blog was really big deal, upto ~15 years ago when he stopped blogging. He and Jeff Atwood created Stack Overflow.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And he created Trello

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Question marked as duplicate: answered in this thread from 15 years ago with no relevant information on anything you were actually asking and has now been deleted — https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1/where-oh-where-did-the-joel-data-go

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks, you made me feel old today. Get off my lawn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My age isn't likely to be the reason why I've never heard of him (or maybe forgot about him). Looking into him, he seems like exactly the type of person I wouldn't pay much attention to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone who shares their experiences gained from writing real world software, with introspection into the dynamics & struggles involved?

Your age (or mostly career progression, which is correlated) may actually be a reason you have no interest in this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think you missed the mark on this one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Am I blithely leaving a path of coding carnage that others are forced to clean up?"

I've never seen any evidence that the programmers I hate cleaning up after have ever, even once asked themselves this question.

Edit: Op is probably fine, and I appreciate everyone who takes the time to introspect on the topic.

Also, it's relevant to realize that there are only two types of code, and anyone capable of producing type two and leaving good commit logs will have their name cursed over and over by future developers:

The two types of code:

  1. Partial solutions that no one uses, or even really remembers, after a few months.
  2. Horrifying legacy solutions that may yet outlive the developers whose nightmares they haunt.

Sometimes a program in category 1 grows up into a program in category 2, like an eldritch horror caterpillar emerging from it's cocoon as an eldritch horror octopus porcupine.

Edit 2: But hey, I heard AI is going to take care of all the coding soon. So that will be nice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Edit 2: But hey, I heard AI is going to take care of all the coding soon. So that will be nice.

Ah common misconception, the AI is actually going to take care of the coders soon.