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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Coming from what sounds like a bunch of tech bros, this sounds deeply dystopian - sure, we'll work you to death even harder during the day, but that won't matter - you can be and do what you like in your dreams.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh no, it gets better...

Imagine a hard day's work, 16 hours of slogging while you're awake

You get home, eat something and then head to bed. You put on your headband and select some setting on your phone and then drift off to sleep.

Now you are working your third job, while you sleep. Solving captchas. A/b testing app logo designs. Completing surveys on products you've bought while you're awake.

Stuff that AI will never be able to do because the value is from being human. And yet is simple enough to do in your sleep.

You wake up with a few less cents in your overdraft and you're ready to start a brand new day...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh for sure - but that bit comes later - we need to figure out how to monetize the lucid dreams first. If we get to that point, inserting advertising seems pretty plausible too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Playing audio to the sleeper while doing an ECG

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can’t wait for the subscription service to avoid having ads mid-dream:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Was watching a lot of TV as a teenager in the late 80s.

One day I was dreaming, then I dreamed a commercial break (some kind of record collection from time life music) then my dream continued.

Next morning I had a WTF I'm watching way too much TV moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Great, I'm going to have to sleep in a faraday cage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The ability to have sex in the dream is another $80 / month The ability to choose your sexual partner is $30 / encounter Flying is VIP only ($200 / month tier) VIP does not include sex dreams, which must be purchased separately with a $10 discount for VIP subscribers!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"What is not known, yet, is whether TUS can induce or stabilize lucid dreams, though the Prophetic team is banking on a positive answer to this open question. Its wearable headband prototype, the Halo, was developed with the company Card79 and can currently read EEG data of users. Over the next year, Prophetic aims to use the dataset from their partnership with the Donders Institute to train machine learning models that will stimulate targeted neural activity in users with ultrasound transducers as a means of inducing lucid dreams."

That's a pretty big caveat. Who the fuck would sign up to be their guinea pig for testing this? A huge part of training these models is providing feedback when it gets things wrong, but we're talking brains here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We're talking brains, indeed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New interrogation method just dropped.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We just need to have out subconscious militarized, so there's no workaround on those defenses. I think have a good idea for my next start up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think your startup should look at partnering with Foreverspin.

But seriously, amazing desk toys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure Cobb, to they spin until they fall or just spin forever in your dreams?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So we need Psychonauts training?

I knew I should have went to that summer camp

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

What is not known, yet, is whether TUS can induce or stabilize lucid dreams

Wollberg and Berry expressed confidence that their approach will work based in part on the successful induction of lucid dreams by other methods, including a 2014 study that found “stimulation in the lower gamma band during REM sleep influences ongoing brain activity and induces self-reflective awareness in dreams.”

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