Have a look at tilvids.com. I know of a couple of large YouTubers that crosspost their stuff there, and there are probably more that I don't know about.
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Problem is youtube is a platform that pays its content creators. It won't ever happen. If discord ever decides they want to be profitable then that'll be next.
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Would creators actually move there? Say what you will about YouTube but at least they usually compensate the creators.
First I’ve heard of alternatives to YouTube. Do they pay content creators the same or is it just people posting for free there?
Each channel has a option to put your support information so people can pay you through patreon, etc. Peertube instances are offering their video hosting for free. You can put in video ads or patreon like services to enable payments. Peertube instances can ask for money as well to help with hosting costs. It's the same business model as all other federated software. The cost of video hosting is distributed by instances and also uses bittorrent to help with sharing the load.
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Peertube always felt hard to use, and no one has really caught on to it imo.
That's unlikely. Both Reddit and Twitter speak or at least spoke to people who enjoy a certain image of being anti establishment (in one way or another and whether that's warranted or not). Youtube just doesn't. You can't get more mainstream than Youtube.
Yes and no. We had TV before YouTube. And yet people still wanted YouTube. Now, YouTube is going full circle and turning into TV. At the end of the day, people just want a place where they can share some cat videos, and random funny clips and memes without all the monetisation, adds, regulation, political correctness, and sanitization. It's just too out of touch for a lot of people.
I'm not sure if the next tube platform will have p2p or federation, but I do know that business models that don't make the user the client always end up dieing from enshitification. People just get fed up of not being catered to. It's just a matter of when, not if.
I think this is super interesting, and a really good idea. But as others have stated in this thread, very costly.
However until technology catches up, maybe we could have an interstitial federated platform. One that's super decentralized. Like 90% of the users running their own instance, decentralized. Anyone with a NAS can host they're own vids. Then the other 10% that are willing to host high bandwidth, high capacity servers, can work as caching for the most popular videos.
I see the switch from YouTube will be the final move, because it is has the most hurdles to overcome. Smart people will eventually figure out an efficient way to get things rolling. Fingers crossed it's soon!
Gotta be a way for folks to get paid. Most of the folks I watch on YouTube do it for a living.
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Nebula has been quite successful as far as I can tell. A whole bunch of educational YouTubers have moved over or were part of establishing it and honestly it works well. Videos can download to your device, the quality is the same, the app is a tiny bit janky but nowhere near as bad as all the ads etc on the YouTube app, and the cost is actually reasonable and goes in a reasonable share to the creators. I strongly prefer direct access to creators like this and also like on Patreon. Direct support means there is no advertiser in between to demonetise a video or have it taken down because it is controversial. You can't even have a WW2 documentary on YouTube but you can have actual Nazis, but on Nebula you get analysis and history without Nike or Surfshark being reticent to sponsor a video.
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Replacing YouTube is a bad idea
I would rather go for reasonable competition. Ideally more than one. I really enjoy nebula for example.
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If Youtube blocks Adblockers, maybe.. but I think ppl will go to Odysse&Co first
its really interesting how much we want an alt to common social medias now imo. for example, streamers are migrating from Twitch to Kick, and as you mentioned, Youtube to PeerTube/rumble
All these companies are constantly pushing just how greedy they can be and it's getting so tiresome. Short term gains and shareholders are the worst thing to happen to a free Internet aside from governments
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I wouldn't for the reasons mentioned by others.
There's no monetization; I would have to find, attract, and deal with sponsors on my own.
There's not really much in the way of audience which makes the above harder since I would need numbers/
There's also the whole thing about bandwidth.
Then there's all the sysadmin stuff to do, security updates, etc.
Then there's still the legal and other admin roles, presumably, about DMCA, etc.
I do not have the time for any of that right now.
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