Just in time for electric cars. Brilliant minds at work here.
this post was submitted on 27 Jun 2023
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the majority are unlikely to transition any time soon though, ev's arent cheap & many people never buy new vehicles anyway.
I don't have the source handy, but I read an article that said the average road life of a vehicle is 14 years.
Though, that was pre-Covid, which did a real number on the used auto industry.
yeah - the only people I know who have purchased a vehicle new in the last few decades are my parents - they're older and wanted something with all the latest bells and whistles because it'll be the last car they buy. saw them a few weeks ago, it feels like riding in a smartphone.
for myself, prior to my car being stolen this last December, I had owned it for 18 years and it was used when I got it. the vehicle I'm turning into an RV is 36 years old (though everything "under the hood" is being replaced - engine/drivetrain/suspension/brakes/exhaust/fuel/electrical systems, etc).
it may be that when new vehicles are readily available - whenever that happens - that a lot of folks will purchase ev's/hybrids, but I honestly dont see it happening.
I drive a hybrid, and it was one of the most important factors in deciding which car to purchase after my last one was totaled. I ended up with a 2019 Honda Insight. It's an absolutely fantastic vehicle for what I need a car for. The mileage is excellent, and the range exceeds even the best EV by essentially double while not suffering from the biggest EV downside -- charging.
Hybrids are absolutely the middle ground, transition vehicles to EV. Most manufacturers are going all-in on hybrid drive systems. CA's requirement that all new vehicles by 2035 be zero-emission is driving that transition. Once charging becomes ubiquitous as gas stations, we're going to see an explosion of EV vehicles.
The only reason I don't have an EV now is because I live in an apartment complex and don't have a ready way to charge a car without going somewhere else.
I bought a used Chevy Spark from a dealer for 8.5k (6k with the Oregon refund) 2 years ago and have barely touched gas or oil since. It's not out of reach.
Progress!
Maybe if there's a place in OR I can stop on the 5 that doesn't make me scared I'll be shot for not being perfectly American Average, I can not even worrying about stopping there as I cruise through in my electric car I'll buy when Soros pays me all that money he owes me
Edit: since for some reason I can't respond to the comment: Multiple times. Most memorable was when I accidentally stopped at a roadside restaurant that gave discounts for open-carry licenses and served the saddest burgers I've ever had the displeasure of paying full price for.
You also forget the state's history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Oregon
Oregon is both extremely liberal and extremely conservative, depending on where you are in the state.
No good feeling unsafe, though. As an Oregonian, I’m sorry: you should not have had that experience.
Along ‘the five’, I’m guessing you were in Southern Oregon, though there are plenty of places in the Willamette valley that love to be contrarian and stick it to the libs with kooky conservative virtue signaling like you experienced at the burger place. Fuck that noise.
And yes, Oregon has a racist history. Most of the families who are black and grew up here first settled in Vanport around the time of WWII, working the shipyards. Many of the now gentrified neighborhoods in North Portland were where many of those Vanport residents migrated after the flooding that devastated the homes.
With so few black families and the reputation of not wanting African American residents at all in Oregon, it’s no wonder the number of black residents hasn’t climbed.
Have you been to Oregon?
I expect the rule that half of the pumps must have an attendant will be repealed eventually, as gas stations* will want to switch more/all their pumps to self serve.
*and when I say gas stations, I mean Costco and Fred Meyer. What share of the market do they hold? More than 50% seems likely.
Costco gas is cheaper and they don't have those annoying ads on the pump. Fuck everyone who was even remotely responsible for bombarding people with even more ads.
I didn't even know this was still a thing
My ambivalence about this is how it'll impact folks who can't pump their own gas. I'm disabled so having an attendant to pump is so nice, in states without it's a hassle to call someone out to pump who may not have ever done so or even know that they can do that. Folks even get pissed at having to disrupt work and come out, or even refuse. It's a barrier that impacts disabled folks access to independent travel. Will this be the fate of Oregon, maybe not immediately but eventually? Great for folks who want to pump their own but for disabled folks who've never had this barrier before it's going to suck.
I understand if people have a moderate preference, but I don’t understand why some people have STRONG opinions about pumping their own gas.
When the weather is crappy, I’d rather have someone pump my gas for me than leave the car and do it myself. In New Jersey, pumping your own gas is actually illegal. Gas stations must pay an attendant, yet gas isn’t any more expensive in New Jersey than it is in New York or Pennsylvania. In fact, sometimes it’s cheaper. The overhead doesn’t appear to be passed on to the customer.
If there was a price difference, then okay, but since the prices are just about the same, I just don’t get it. I welcome any explanations or personal opinions.
It's a matter of personal independence and speed. If I'm at a gas station to fill up then I'm not making progress in getting where I want to be going. I know what grade of gas I want put in my car, I know how the pumps operate, and I can generally fuel my car faster than going through the back-and-forth process of dealing with an attendant. Of course, I've also only lived in places where self-service was the norm, so I'm very used to pumping my own gas. Whenever I drive down to visit my sister in Portland I always try to fill up across the river in Washington just so I don't have to deal with the mandatory full-service in Oregon.
It turns a two minute stop into a giant pain in the ass. It's a major inconvenience that serves absolutely zero purpose.
I'm actually pretty bummed about the change. It's a luxury (and one of the things that makes Oregon special) to be able to wait in a heated or air conditioned car while someone else pump my gas. I also don't understand why some people are so gung ho to pump their own.