this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2023
50 points (98.1% liked)

Selfhosted

40042 readers
940 users here now

A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.

Rules:

  1. Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.

  2. No spam posting.

  3. Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it's not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.

  4. Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.

  5. Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).

  6. No trolling.

Resources:

Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.

Questions? DM the mods!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

I used to have a really cheap domain from Namecheap before, and I used Cloudflare as my DNS. I'm going to buy a new domain, and Spaceship seems to be the cheapest registrar for my domain right now (I'm only buying for one year), however they seem really new. Are there any differences between Namecheap and Spaceship, and should I use one over the other?

all 24 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry to say I’ve never heard of spaceship, but wanted to make sure you know that Cloudflare now has a registrar service, so if you’re already using them for DNS, that might be worth a look for you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

And they do not markup domain prices. You pay what they pay.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's too expensive for me (Cloudflare is $10, and my options are $2).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does your second year cost look like? Often $2 domains are only $2 in the first year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only buy one year at a time.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then change to a different domain? Depending on the domain, you may not be able to renew it for another year for $2

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or pay a fee >$10 for transferring the domain to a different registrar.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

xyz, because of the low price.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

You probably won't get the discount price for a transfer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The first year price is a "loss leader" discount. Get you in the door, then make a profit from you in future.

Namecheap have a bit of a reputation (as can be seen here with a few people warning of poor support), Spaceship seems to be a bit of a offshoot/addition they have created, partly as it doesn't seem to be a 1-1 comparison, and partly maybe to avoid their existing reputation?

However, it's not entirely a bad idea to separate your registrar from your DNS provider. If one goes down, you still have access to the other to make changes. I used namecheap in the past because it was cheap, and cloudflare for DNS. If you are using both for only your registrar, it probably won't matter much at all as you are probably not changing nameservers often, if at all, once set.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That renewal price on Namecheap is $15

Most registrars give you an obnoxiously low first registration price so they can get you with the real fee (often $15-50+ per year) later.

Any time you see the discount price mark on Namecheap, expect to be paying at least the original price per year.

https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/gtld/xyz/

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don’t need your registrar to have anything in regards to SSL, you can do it all yourself

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know, I'm just wondering about the differences between the two registrars. I edited the post to make it less confusing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've preferred namecheap for years for their charity fundraising for the EFF and general no-nonsense takes on various Internet related political issues that have come up over the years.

It also helps that the service is also nice with a high quality UI, a generous number of DNS records (you have to watch this, I forget who but one place I used way back when only gave 5 records for free), and I've never had issues with their DNS servers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am pretty sure that Spaceship is a new endeavor by Namecheap themselves. With this as reasoning I've seen people advise to keep a distance from Spaceship, because it's somewhat expected to have the same (bad) customer service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Huh, so it is. Right at the bottom of the main page, "built with [heart] by Namecheap".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Domain registration doesn't handle SSL, that's done on your host side with letsencrypt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know, I'm just wondering about the differences between the two registrars. I edited the post to make it less confusing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You should have striken out the part you didn't want. So the person reading the comments know the changes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use namecheap for a ton of my domains, but I use them only as a registrar. All of my hosting is done on other providers (aws, digitalocean, linode, etc.).

This means I've got access to my hosts' machines via command line, and so can setup up certbot really easily. Though going with a self-managed host also means you'll need to have some technical proficiency to take care of things yourself. But to me, that's part of the fun.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

So having used many, many registrars both personally and for businesses, I would recommend the first year on namecheap, get that cheap price, before final 60 days are up, migrate it to cloudflare; only pay $10 in this case and they extend your remaining time over on them so you don't lose out on any cost you already paid to previous registrar. It's a no brainer. You pay at cost for domains at Cloudflare, but no cheap introductory price.