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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Dude, 100Mbps isn't good enough anymore either

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What? That’s plenty for the average person.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think person* is the keyword here. Many families have several people concurrently watching streaming video, listening to music, and playing games that are required to have an internet connection. 100Mbps is not enough.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Streaming music is a very negligible impact. We've had streaming music for 2 decades.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah that one bothers me... The most demanding MP3s are what... 320kbps? That's 3.3GB per day. That is not really a hard demand on bandwidth at all. 100GB/month. And that's the max bitrate MP3 does... Most services are probably doing 128kbps...

Spotify has an Audio quality table on their site... https://support.spotify.com/us/article/audio-quality/

Low = 24kbps, 0.2471923828 GB/day
Normal = 96 kbps, 0.9887695313 GB/day
High = 160 kbps, 1.6479492188 GB/day
Very High = 320 Kbps, 3.2958984375 GB/day

These are very reasonable and easy numbers to obtain on just about any internet connection. The only way this is an "issue" is if you're running like a couple hundred streams at once.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Right, but this is about setting a minimum standard for it to be classified as broadband. For an average individual 100Mbps is high speed internet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

And most families probably have cheap wifi routers with poor snr as their main bottleneck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would like to disagree, since every "news" site started adding auto playing videos and ads on each and every page. what should be a 2kB text now comes with a 50MB video Download...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
  1. get yourself a good adblocker (ublock origin)
  2. Block autoplay by default (firefox has had this for years, chromium just added it)
  3. start deliberately avoiding such sites when you can
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's like two people streaming high def TV at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No way, that would be 6.25 MB/s for tv. For a two hour movie that would be 50GB. Is a 4k movie really 50GB?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Depends on the quality. YouTube 4k is about 25mbit/s, so that's 3-4 4k YouTube videos playing at the same time on a 100Mb/s connection.

4k Blu-Rays OTOH can be about 50GB or larger even. You wouldn't ordinarily stream that but you could stream one or two blu-rays with a 100Mb/s connection.

100Mbit/s is plenty for current use-cases.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Is a 4k movie really 50GB?

I have a number of movies (about 100-ish titles) in my library that are well above 50Mbps.

Back to the future (1989) as an example is 72.24 GB in my library.

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