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Researchers have predicted the collapse of the AMOC could happen any time between 2025 and 2095 — far sooner than previous predictions, although not all scientists are convinced.

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[–] [email protected] 201 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm so tired of living in a world of impending doom. This is hell.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The phrase “may you live in interesting times” is a curse.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Despite being so common in English as to be known as the "Chinese curse", the saying is apocryphal, and no actual Chinese source has ever been produced." - Wikipedia

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh is this a thing? The phrase has been on my mind lately and I’m like no, it’s a fucking curse. Thanks for the trivia!!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole point of that phrase is that it's a curse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info! I’ve only ever heard it said in a positive way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

"Exciting times, kiddo"

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)

And they know how to fucking fix it but don't want to

It'd be like if in the movie Armageddon the government just said "Eh let's see if it really will be that bad if it hits us"

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

That movie felt way too real watching it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but without the part where they tried

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We haven't gotten to that point yet

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Without some sort of violent revolution, we won't, or time runs out but it's not a movie and there's no ship to another planet.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great. That's exactly what we need now - more violence

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Revolutions take over where reason stops. The people in power have the means to do the right thing, but sometimes they look out for a few people and will destroy thousands. That's not a good option, as people get more desperate

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Climate change is not something that has a simple solution to it and governments just refuse to do so for whatever reason. That's a naive view that ignores all the complexity of this issue.

For example: stopping all carbon emissions is not going to stop climate change. Not only do you need to become carbon-neutral but you also need to get all the excessive carbon out of the atmosphere. How?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Why the extreme? Cutting back and investing in things that are better should be a mandate, not an idea or option. And certainly we cannot allow an administration to roll things backwards just because someone ~~bribed them~~ donated to their campaign

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there's ever a time when it's justified, it's when our very existence is at stake.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Climate change is not an existential threat to humanity

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

To humanity? Probably not. To billions of people? Definitely yes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This is because you're not sorting your recycling!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We could do something about the asteroid, but think of the harm doing something could do to the shareholders!?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I was going to save humanity but I have a responsibility to a handful of shareholders that yell at me in meetings so... You can really see how hard this is for me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only "they" is actually "us". We voted those clowns into office. We knew (or should have known, the information was available) better at least since the 1970s.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Dude our election system is so fucked, I put that mostly on greedy corporations. But yeah, there's no shortage of blame to go around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, there's a group of people who would rather make members who vote a certain way sad than save their own lives. I don't get it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

From FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME to let me lick those boots while you tell me what I should be outraged about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's actually kind of too late now.

But, we may be able to prevent more bad stuff happening if we change things today!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IDK, I mean we know it's to do with carbon but we don't really know how to stop producing that in a timely manner.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yes we do. Carbon tax.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good news! Soon the doom won't be impending!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you tried being absurdly wealthy?

I haven't myself, but I hear it makes it all worth it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

It’s on my to-do list.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not yet, but I already elected ultra-capitalist parties to make sure not to stop the exploitation, so I can become the exploiter eventually :-)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

I just long for a time when the conspiracy theorists are yelling about the end of the world and the scientists are running the country, not the other way around.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The doom depends on where you live. Florida? Yup, probably, but you where already living in hell. Europe? Iced up North Sea, really snowy north, big ice caps, Spain and portugal getting more cool...doesn't sound that bad, to me personally.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

What? I moved to the nordics so that I'd be living in a tropical paradise soon, now there's going to be more snow?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Michigan's Upper Peninsula is one of the places least likely to be affected by climate change, based on current models. In the US anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mostly florida, as the "AMOC" transports the heat away from florida. Could very well be, that a stoppage of the AMOC would create a Hypercane and completely wreck everything in Florida. Cuba could also be absolutely done for. Canada would also probably have a LOT more snow - the Soutpole however would probably stop existing and what exactly is going to happen to Brazil is a complete unknown. Some simulations show the insta death of the rest of the rain forest. Some simulations actually show the opposite. However, Europe, Africa and Asia probably would see a lot lower temps - what exactly that would mean for the Climate in those areas is also highly speculative - however, it's something that happened quite often throughout the history of earth. North America however has lots of other parts liveable, when Florida is "dead" and basically the Sahara.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Happened quite often in the past…over the course of thousands of years. Man-made global warming is a very different animal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the collapse of the AMOC was pretty rapid in the past as well. And it's separate from climate change. Man-made global warming is very complex and there are various things contributing to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Clearly a coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are the first person I've seen recognize the legitimate fear that these climate issues could result in hypercanes.

Hurricanes of a size and fury as to not be measurable on current scale, Whose devastation could stretch across half a continent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Whose devastation could stretch across half a continent.

Thats one way to stop carbon emissions!