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Stack Overflow has seen a substantial decline in traffic over the last year that appears to be accelerating. https://observablehq.com/@ayhanfuat/the-fall-of-stack-overflow

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought chatgpt is kinda shit now since the newest updates

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it’s overblown tbh.

In my experience it still makes good suggestions for most things, and is better than trying to phrase things in a way that Google likes, then trawling through irrelevant forum posts.

It’s only there to make suggestions, so if someone is taking its output without understanding and treating it like gospel then they’re an idiot who’s inevitably going to end up in a world of trouble.

If you take the suggestion, verify it with documentation, then make sure you actually understand it, chatGPT is a great tool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ChatGPT has been a great tool to help me teach coding. It lets my students with a few months experience write better code, as if they had a few extra months experience, but like you say it's very easy to get in trouble with it. We had it generate some code to interface a web app with some cloud triggers, and chatGPT suggested we put all the API keys / creds right there in the front end where anyone with "view source" could see them. It made for a really good lesson, actually, on the need to gain experience, understand what code does , and to validate with documentation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

trawling through irrelevant forum posts.

This makes it worth it from just a time savings perspective. Also, describing it as trawling is very accurate lol. It takes a lot of trawling to get the answer you need, and even then sometimes it isn't right because you're relying on a single individual's answer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I agree that it isn't as good as it was. The last two updates have definitely decreased its effectiveness for multiple things, not just dev. It is still my starting point when looking for something. It is just not as good as it used to be.

Obviously, you can't take what it gives at face value, but you shouldn't do that from SO either. In general, I see faster results using GPT than I do with Google and SO. You can also extend the responses with any customization or changes specific to what you are trying to do, where you can't with SO.

I'm not saying SO is bad. Not by any stretch. I still use it a lot. It just isn't my starting point anymore.