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[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I've not concealed anything, I've shared far more than you have. Dornberger was implicated in the plot by the Nazis which led to his immediate replacement by Kammler in overseeing the rocketry program. While not officially a part of the anti-nazi resistance, he has been photographed with several members of it including happily shaking hands with Erich Fellgiebel.

If he wasn't a part of the plot, then why did they replace him?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

so your evidence is that he at least kinda knew some of the july 20 plotters and that he was replaced during the general SS takeover of everything after the plot.

tell me, was goring also implicated in the plot then? because:

In March 1945, Hitler stripped Göring of his powers over aircraft support, maintenance and supply, and transferred these duties to Kammler.

why isnt he listed among the july 20 plotters on any list then? why isnt goring?

also, once again, even if he was in on the plot, that doesnt mean he wasnt a fascist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Kammler was assigned to oversee the V-2 Program on August 8th 1944, not March 1995. Kammler had previously overseen the V-3 programn in 1943 maybe earlier, and previously wanted to move the entire rocketry project from Dornberger's and Von Braun's post at Peenemunde to an underground facility at Mittelwerk, which ironically would have saved the nazi's from losing the entire operation as keeping Peenemunde operational led to leaked intel to Polish intelligience and subsequent bombings by USA and Soviet troops, and finally a soviet invasion in May 1945 at which point most of the facility was in pieces.

I tell you what, if Kammler were recruited by Operation Paperclip I certainly wouldn't defend that fucker. According to a former OSS Operative Donald W. Richardson, he says Hans Kammler was supposedly "interned at a place of maximum security, with no hope, no mercy and without seeing the light of day until he hanged himself".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

wait a tick, was he even arrested by the nazis? or are you really basing this on a photograph and the fact that he was replaced at the peenemunde facility around the time of the march assassination attempt?

edit: no, sorry, none of this makes sense.

according to you, the timeline is this:

13 March 1943 - attempt on hitler
March 1944 - dornberger is replaced
20 July 1944 - another attempt on hitler

and you're saying that he was replaced because he was implicated in the plot? and they waited a whole year? or they could see into the future?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Kammler was assigned to oversee the V-2 Program on August 8th 1944.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

ah, sorry, yes.

so the timeline becomes:

13 March 1943 - attempt on hitler
March 1944 - himmler convinced hitler to hand the v2 project over to the SS
20 July 1944 - another attempt on hitler
aug 8 1944 - dornberger is replaced

but it goes on:

December 1944, Dornberger was given complete authority for anti-aircraft rocket development
In February 1945, Dornberger and staff relocated his headquarters from Schwedt-an-der-Oder to Bad Sachsa,

so the project was already slated to be handed over to the SS and then dornberger was implicated in the plot but was not arrested, not imprisoned, not killed, just replaced, but he still got to be an officer and had staff and was in charge of developing rockets in some other project.

okay. help me make it make sense.