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Poll shows US public support for LGBTQ+ protections falling for first time since 2015 (www.theguardian.com)

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New survey suggests decline has strong correlation between Christian nationalism and opposition to inclusive policies

Public support for same-sex marriage and nondiscrimination protections for LGBTQ+ Americans has fallen, even as the overall share remains high, according to new findings by the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute.

Broad majorities of Americans, regardless of political party or faith, continue to support LGBTQ+ rights and protections, the analysis found. But after years of rising public support, the decline is notable, said Melissa Deckman, CEO of the PRRI.

The survey analyzed Americans’ attitudes toward LGBTQ+ rights across three policies: same-sex marriage, nondiscrimination protections and religion-based service refusals. It found support for all three measures had softened for the first time since the PRRI began tracking views of the issues nearly a decade ago.

While the “vast majority of Americans continue to endorse protections for LGBTQ Americans”, Deckman said the results may serve as a “warning sign” for those working to safeguard the rights of LGBTQ+ Americans amid a conservative legislative and legal effort to erode them.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

A centrist on gay rights likely sees that marriage is legal, culturally it’s acceptable, so why should they fight for more rights, they’re already equal?

But they factually aren't equal. It's legal to discriminate against gays in a variety of ways -- including in employment and, apparently, when selling business services. They are not a protected class in most places. They are directly targeted by hostile, criminalizing legislation all over the place. They aren't fighting for MORE rights, they're still fighting for equal rights and are far, far away from winning them.

Which means the centrist position, by your logic, is that gays should remain second-class citizens because they already got everything they need, even though it's still factually legal to discriminate against them? That's not actually different from the far right's position that it should be illegal to be gay. It's far, far away from the liberal position that people have a right to not be discriminated against. There's no moderation in that position. It's still the "kill some gays" position.

So no, I'm not incorrectly simplifying. I'm cutting away the bullshit. If you or anyone you know is a "centrist" on gay rights by the logic that they "already" are safe, those people are monsters. The only way to be a "centrist" in the way you have described is to be upsettingly ignorant. And if the entire philosophy of centrism is that these people are too ignorant to form a cognizant moral position, what are we even talking about?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're the type of person who makes claims that are not true, hurting the cause

https://www.employmentlawworldview.com/landmark-u-s-supreme-court-ruling-prohibits-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity-based-discrimination-in-employment-us/

It's not legal to discriminate based on sexual orientation in employment