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/r/Piracy is just a bunch of memes, and this community actively talks about piracy, it's ethical philosophy and taking control over your media. There are people who pirate everything regardless of circumstances, but for the most part, I'd argue its people who have been burnt by companies whom they trusted.
Because otherwise it would get instantly banned. You don't host piracy communities on social media, it's well known
I disagree that it actually talks about the "ethical philosophy." Basically either you join the echo chamber saying that there are no ethical problems with piracy, or you're downvoted to oblivion. The responses are along the lines of "idc, I want free stuff." That makes the discussion redundant and uninteresting.
Hey there's long fledged out discussions on the nuances of... how very ethical piracy is
Yep. I got wrecked trying to discuss the nuanced differences between piracy and theft.
Decided then and there to just block all discussions/communities on the topic. If they canβt leave the wind-tunnel, they can keep it to themselves.
Some people have to jump through a lot of moral hoops to justify piracy instead of accepting there could be any possible bad points about it
Exactly.
because the flipside is companies wanting to nickel and dime you to oblivion for a subpar piece of media, or even hardware these days.
We're talking about whether the community has a nuanced discussion about the ethics of piracy or not. What you said just now is another attempt at a false dichotomy, so if you're trying to represent the community you're kind of proving my point.
im presenting you with a simple, common but strong argument for it.
you can choose to engage with it with nuance or, apparently, attack me.
you won't agree with every set of ideals out there, that doesn't mean it isnt tought out.
Your argument is not relevant to anything I said. So I don't want to engage with it because it derails the discussion here, which is not about the ethics of piracy but about the community's openness to discussing it.
yes it is. you just dont want to have that discussion.
the community will rightfully shun people parroting the copyrights holders arguments and bad faith arguing, because thats not the place to be if you hate piracy.
They can do whatever they want, it's their community. Just don't tell me there's a nuanced discussion going on there.
well dont tell me there isnt while refusing to engage.
I did engage multiple times in that community, when it was on topic. I eventually learned that there was no point in doing so.
Idk if it's still there, but devs of lemmy mentioned wanting to make a place you could actually talk about piracy. I buy things when I can DRM free, and when I can't I'm really glad this community exists
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