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What makes BSD stand out as its own system? I've been thinking about installing it in a new computer mainly for reading but I don't know much about it.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’m going to get crucified for this… for a desktop end-user it’s basically Linux with completely different syntax, lesser hardware compatibility and limited support channels.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am certainly not going to crucify you for it. While FreeBSD is a fantastic operating system, its hardware support is lacking.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really wish it was more popular. The userspace feels way more cohesive and the GNUisms of some Linux utilities is annoying sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do as well but FreeBSD made a lot of self-inflicted wounds. OpenBSD on the other hand runs surprisingly well on a variety of hardware. It won't run well on the absolute latest but one or two generations behind it works gangbusters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have recommendations for where to get started with OpenBSD? The only BSD distro(?) I have gotten working with my hardware (Thinkpad X1 gen9, M1 Mac) is Nomad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Simply get started using the OpenBSD FAQ. I think the Gen9 Thinkpad X1 should work. I just don't know if it uses NVIDIA crap. If it does, you're shit outta luck. As for the first generation Apple silicon, I don't know how feature complete OpenBSD is on that platform.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that’s the catch though: it’s more cohesive because it’s not popular… people work and design and finesse it into a standard… linux however is popular so has a lot of opinions going into it! and that reinforces itself: it has a lot of stuff so that makes it popular and it’s popular so that means it has a lot of stuff!

BSD is great for what it’s great for and Linux is good for… pretty much everything

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's because one of its tenets is POLA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment). I use it for every server I run (4 physical, 37 'jailed'). Desktop it's "OK" and can be hit and miss with a lot of hardware, I'll admit it. It works on my laptop perfectly, and on my desktop generally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's actually amazing they got this much hardware support. Heck, they even have Nvidia driver support. It could've been worse.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

No that's 100% the standard take. FreeBSD is a fantastic operating system but it doesn't make sense as a daily driver for a personal computer

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And less supported software! Open-source programs can often be compiled for FreeBSD but many closed-source and some open-source software won't work in FreeBSD. There is the Linuxulator, which is basically Wine but for Linux programs on FreeBSD but it doesn't have perfect Linux software support yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the benefit in other circumstances?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

It’s rock solid. It also has a heavy emphasis on security. Numerous high-end network routers and security devices use it as the base operating system. Darwin, the open source foundation of macOS is also derived from it.