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Could the blue states just ignore orders from the white house? Like if he orders them to round up illegal aliens? What could trump do about it?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The phrase “national divorce” is irritating but that wasn’t a horrible article, I suppose. Rep. Greene’s idea of “separate by red states and blue states” is ludicrous. I do have to wonder who benefits from spreading such soundly idiotic ideas such as secession, “divorce” or civil war. It sure as fuck would not be the average person or people who benefit from the US being strong or functional. Republicans are suckers for it because, as usual, they have serious intellectual and emotional issues. Conservative states would be completely fucked by being forced to be a separate country. The change in global political power would also be massive and I can only imagine the effects that would have even if the transition was quick and painless, which I doubt.

Anyway, there is not really any such thing as a “red state” or “blue state” and I miss the times before the media popularized those terms. They dramatically overstate the balance of population who support the one side in those states - a “red” state might be one where 60% of voters consistently back republicans, but calling the state “red” ignores the existence of everyone in the minority there. There are also the issues of voter suppression and unequal access to voting, which might make the state not so “red” if not present. So there isn’t any reasonable or fair way to partition the US and I wish people would stop taking such an incredibly stupid idea seriously.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Greene is Putin's lap dog. And Putin is the only guy who would really benefit from a split. He benefits just from Greene talking about a split.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

I think China, and many countries in the middle East would benefit as well.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The article was mainly to meet the requirements of the sub. My real question is in the body. What could trump actually do if blue states ingore his orders. And in this case we are talking about the governments of the states, not the people, so blue and red really exist in that way. It seems using the military is highly questionable with a lot of confusing laws and exceptions. Enough that I bet most military commanders would refuse to act without supreme court clarification. So what could trump really do? The blue states could just practice civil disobedience essentially.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Withholding federal funding has historically been the first and only necessary action for states that refuse to follow federal law