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Food Standards Agency advises consumers with dairy and fish allergies to check labels carefully

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Veganism is an ethical decision moreso than a dietary decision. If you've truly adopted veganism, and not just doing it for "cool guy" points, you've already understood how the food manufacturing industry operates. You've already made strides to avoid eating anything that may be processed in the same facility as animal products. You largely eat whole ingredients that you buy and prepare personally. And you would probably never touch a pre-made meat substitute. Being vegan isn't just about saving cute animals, it's a conscious decision to reduce your total impact on the environment and that generally means not buying (or not buying as many) things made by the large producers (Nestle, Unilever, etc)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You've already made strides to avoid eating anything that may be processed in the same facility as animal products.

But why? This would just make it much harder for (smaller) companies to bring vegan products to market.

You largely eat whole ingredients that you buy and prepare personally. And you would probably never touch a pre-made meat substitute.

Most vegans I know eat meat substitutes rather regularly. Eating a whole food diet is primarily motivated by health. Some vegans also try to be as healthy as possible, sure, but many don't really care about that.

Ethical veganism is about not financially supporting the commodification of animals, especially on factory farms, nothing more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because as a vegan, you know that in order to remain ethical, you do not buy mass produced crap that was produced in the same facility as dairy products. You wouldnt support that company.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I like how they tried to argue against your point but actually agreed without realising it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

This post isn't talking about vegans. It is talking about people with allergies and food tolerance issues. Specifically, people with dairy allergies might think products labeled "vegan" would automatically be free of dairy contamination by definition, but that isn't always the case. If they were vegan, they probably wouldn't have to resort to junk food labeling to determine if a product is dairy free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ethical decision of not eating animals or facilitate their captive farming for by-products doesn't imply an ethical decision to avoid some big corpo. It has almost nothing to do with avoiding food being produced in the same room as non-vegan products, and you could ethically argue, you shouldn't avoid that. Same goes for substitutes. Most of all, 0.1% of some vegan chocolate bar containing miniscule amount of diary that however could trigger someone's allergy definitely couldn't count as an ethical violation of vegan philosophy.

What you describe is some overall lifestyle choice that combines ethical reasoning with superstition. Might apply to a lot of vegans out there, but does not define veganism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No superstition. This is why most people have trouble being vegan. It requires vigilance and research. It requires being conscious of consumer food products.

Literally everyone replying to my original comment projected their own meaning onto it and are arguing against points I didnt make.

The point was: vegans are more aware of food production practices and what companies make what, then they change their buying habits accordingly. The factory didnt start making dairy products all of a sudden, that would require insane amounts of expensive retrofitting.