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With the debatable exception of Jadzia, all those characters were exclusively shown in heterosexual relationships.
Rejoined was a great episode.
That's not exactly evidence against them all being bi
This is where the wishful thinking, mentioned earlier, comes to play I guess.
By that logic, there's also no evidence that god doesn't exist.
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Bisexuals exist and aren't always obvious, so "absent evidence to the contrary, that person might be bisexual" is not an extraordinary claim — hell, assuming similar prevalence of bisexuality then as we see now, which is arguably the lower bound given the cultural changes depicted, it's statistically improbable that there wouldn't be at least one non-straight person in the main cast.
I don't care.
I don't need to know their exact sexual preferences. That is not of any influence to the story. If it was, it would have been in the story and if it was in the story, it wouldn't have mattered what their preference was, because it would have made sense either way in the context of the story.
Issues of sexuality and gender are already being adressed in this show, there is no need to project them into situations where they're not.
Right, but that's a completely different thing than you were arguing. The likelihood of a character being queer is a Watsonian question about demographics of a space station, whereas whether it's plot relevant is a Doylist question about themes and conservation of narrative. And given that Garrick was originally conceived as a queer character and the actor has explicitly stated that he wanted the character to be queer, but Rick Berman insisted that this not be done and instead wrote in a weird love story between him and young girl, I actually think it's pretty f****** relevant to discussions around the culture of the show.
Julian and Garak were clearly in a relationship. Just ask Garak.
Don’t get baited
I got suckered into arguing about this very topic some days ago, and only had my sexuality questioned when they ran out of arguments. Suffice it to say that there is plenty of wishful thinking involved
It's so bizzare and unexpected that a meme about "headcannon" would inspire wishful thinking of all things WHY
Not too sure what's debatable about Jadzia. Julian on the other hand... pretty debatable.
While she kissed a girl, it was never portrayed as a lesbian relationship, rather the post reincarnation resumption of earlier straight marriage.
Did Bashir ever pine after a guy? O’Brien doesn’t count.
If you've not noticed garak and Bashir.... well, it's worth a rewatch just for that.
Garak is a pleasure to watch, and Andrew Robinson said he’s intentionally coded as bi, but he’s not in this photo.
Julian has a relationship with garak, and while he's obviously a bit confused about what it is it's pretty evident garak is not.
That's what I told grandma when she walked in on me and Jenny Davis
Dang I know he was just a simple tailor but such shade as to ignore him entirely?
Lmao yeah lets just throw away evidence.
Did O'Brien ever pine after a girl? Kieko doesn’t count.
Their genders were never a consideration as an obstacle either, though.
So while neither might have been gay or even bi... I'd give more credence to poly over anything. "Whatever works!"
That makes it trans, which still counts.
Does William Travis or Davey Crocket count?
Sure, but that doesn't mean they were exclusively heterosexual.
The definition of canon is that which is shown on screen.
Any character that does not explicitly say they were hetero/homosexual is canonically bi until proven otherwise.
If they're not shown in explicitly sexual relationships, they're canonically ace.
if they are not shown going the the toilet, they're canonically in voluntary urinary retention
Canonically the poop is beamed out
Shaka when the walls fell. O'Brien bored in the transport room, his poop beamed out.
Oh shit, hoisted by my own Picard.
Odo and Laas linked.
Linking isn’t inherently sexual, as was pretty clear from that episode.