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    Why can't I just buy it without being charged for preinstalled spyware? (lemmy.world)
    submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    What are your sources for debunking mine?
    Besides you just not liking to face the truth?

    Blanket surveillance is not clickbait,
    it's spyware, and a problem.

    But sure continue to stick your head in the sand,
    that will surely help humanity beat this problem.

    [–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    For starters:

    1. In the worst case, this leaks App Store searches. Who cares? You’re already carrying a cellphone which is substantially more intrusive. Your carrier is likely selling your location and demographic data as you speak.

    2. Zero investigation was done about what this tool does besides just opening a network connection. For all we know, it could be merely be downloading a DB to fix up/normalize EXIF fields.

    3. Even Kaspersky says it was likely a test/debug feature.

    You’re not advocating privacy, you’re advocating pedantry without respect to the larger picture. Do consider your fingerprint and how unique it is (likely) being a Linux user on Firefox with a number of adblocking addons blocking certain types of traffic. You are substantially easier to track despite trying to embrace privacy.

    The Linux community is the absolute worst part of using Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Interesting point about non-conventional cookie practices flagging "privacy-first" users as unique to spying parties. I'd imagine this line of thinking harmonizes with the herd mentality, where if you stand outside of the herd you're more likely to be spotted and targeted. Makes you wonder what practices users could engage to actually help combat privacy invasion, and which might backfire

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

    I’d imagine this line of thinking harmonizes with the herd mentality

    Yup, exactly! If your fingerprint is 1-in-10 it'd be easy to pick you out. If your fingerprint is 1-in-50,000,000, it'd take far more work.

    I think the solution is for privacy protections to be established as a default on platforms used by a lot of people but there's very little incentive for Google to do this, and I don't think Microsoft cares.

    For better-or-worse, Apple is the only major (well, double-digit marketshare) platform remotely attempting this right now. Consider their blocking advertising trackers for all users of Mobile Safari. You can't really narrow down Safari users by "those who use privacy protection" and "those who are on vanilla installs".

    There aren't enough Linux users to hide amongst so I suppose the next best thing is to get your fingerprint to match a typical user on another widely-used platform. In this example, pretending to be Safari.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    Lol, I'm done discussing with you fruity.

    You're blatantly ignoring / laughing away evidence to protect the image of a bad, but for some reason, you're favorite spyware slinging company.

    And on top of it,
    now also bashing the privacy and linux communities since you can't make valid debunkments :P

    Instead of bashing,
    to suck up to that spying company,
    perhaps you should try defending your rights to privacy for a change.

    You may rant in the void now,
    I won't waste time on your fanboy nonsense anymore.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    No, I’m waving away reactionary nonsense.

    But keep pretending like you know what you’re doing because you’ve made your competency level clear as day here.

    Yet another “privacy advocate” not knowing what they’re doing.