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Hillary Clinton is warning about the legality of birth control in the wake of a decision by the Alabama Supreme Court that found frozen embryos created through fertility treatments are children under state law.

“They came for abortion first. Now it’s [in vitro fertilization], and next it’ll be birth control,” the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee and secretary of State said in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

“The extreme right won’t stop trying to exert government control over our most sacred personal decisions until we codify reproductive freedom as a human right,” Clinton added.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean I agree, that's my point. I don't like the "earn my vote" model of thinking

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What is the benefit of democracy if candidates aren't trying to earn your vote?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Candidates are trying to earn the majority vote, not your vote specifically. Democracy is largely about compromise. It's not about convincing people that you're right, but about serving the majority. Your issue here is with the majority of voters, not the people seeking their votes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Democracy is largely about compromise

From who? Does a majority who cannot win general elections on their own have to compromise? Or is the compromise purely one way?

Your issue here is with the majority of voters

It's both. The moderates as the majority voting bloc decided on Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries and are failing to remind him he can't win elections on their votes alone. Joe Biden should realize this and tell the moderates they can't win elections on their own and will have to concede some policy decisions to progressives and leftists.

Progressives and leftists don't need to be reminded democracy is about compromise. It's the moderates and the people they elect who fail to understand this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Re the first point, that's an issue with your system of democracy, (I agree that it's stupid and outdated) again not an issue with Hilary herself.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with your second point, I think we fundamentally disagree on what democracy is. Electees are there to serve the people who vote them in, if the minority of those people want change then they need to convince the electorate, not the candidates.

For context, I think we probably align quite closely politically, I just feel your expectations are misplaced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You didn't answer my question.

Democracy is largely about compromise

From who? Does a majority who cannot win general elections on their own have to compromise? Or is the compromise purely one way?

Whatever your political views actually are you're in here doing the work defending moderates for their shitty behavior. If you spent your time arguing with them instead of someone you supposedly align with maybe we'd get somewhere.