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So, your comment was just out of left field. By all means, I dislike Hillary and what her astronomical failure has lead us to and I completely agree that the DNC is borderline useless if not outright harmful, but your comment appears to shoot down the message just because of who it comes from.
The point here is focusing on the conservatives going after further reproductive rights issues and you're over here going "both sides are baaaad!".
Like, at the end of the day I don't disagree with you, it was just kind of random lol.
I think it's relevant to point out HRC is the reason we're living in this reality.
That's an absurd take. Fyi I'm from the UK and don't have any skin in the game, but blaming the opposition instead of the people who are actually causing the issues is just bizarre and kind of self destructive. Yes the DRC made mistakes, but they aren't responsible for what the GOP have done since.
HRC helped Trump win the Republican primaries in 2016.
Do you believe that she actively helped trump over herself, or that she messed up? It's so much easier with hindsight...in essence you're making the "the west is responsible for ww2" argument, sure they messed up with the restrictions put on Germany after WW1, but WW2 wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for a bunch of tyrants...
So many people seem to think they have a right to the perfect candidate for them, but democracy is about the best compromise for the masses. (In reply to some of your other comments on this thread)
It's a well documented fact.
https://news.yahoo.com/risky-strategy-democrats-using-win-095210806.html
...over herself
Hillary Clinton helped get Trump elected. That's enough for me to confidently call her a piece of shit. Is it for you? Or is it okay to help Trump in some situations?
You've deliberately avoided answering the question. Promoting one other candidate because you think it's better for you is a very legitimate strategy, the fact that it backfired is another thing. You seem to be implying that she somehow intentionally screwed everyone over when her intention was clearly to win, other factors had a far greater influence (ie the meddling of other countries)
For the personal interests of Hillary Clinton? Absolutely. Doesn't change the fact that she's a piece of shit.
Anyway I'm not interested in answering your question. I'm just here to remind everyone Hillary Clinton is a piece of shit.
ok, so you didn't understand. you misquoted the aboe poster by leaving out the "over herself" part. That is the key part of the above posters point, that Hillary did try to become president for real, but screwed it up. The above poster was asking if you really believed that Hillary never even tried to beat Trump and become president. I am pointing this out because you are essentially talking past the above posters point.
And I'm pointing out they're talking past the point I made in the comment they're responding to.
See how that works?
Not at all correct, I'm trying to establish whether you believe Hilary deliberately got trump elected, or whether she screwed up. You seem to be avoiding the answer because it doesn't fit your narrative, made even clearer by your choice to cut out the key part of my question when paraphrasing. If you aren't open to a legitimate discussion then there isn't much point in continuing.
(Paraphrasing, ignoring questions to make your own point etc see the exact traits I see and hate in the right, usually I can have proper honest conversations with fellow lefties so I have to admit I was surprised by your tactics here)
No you're trying to deflect the conversation away from a very simple fact: Hillary helped Trump get elected. Anyone who helps Trump get elected is a piece of shit. Hillary Clinton is a piece of shit.
It's rich that you're lecturing my narrative when we're both trying to push one. Yours just happens to be the same narrative being pushed by pro-corporate, strike blocking, genocide supporting establishment Democrats. What's in it for you?
That's some very aggressive spin. All I get from you is anger towards anyone with a different opinion, you don't seem open to conversation, you attempt to spin what other people have said, so why should anyone take what you're saying at face value?
You didn't answer my question so I won't be answering yours.