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No I don't. I don't have a charger at my apartment and I'm not going to wait for a charge on a daily basis at a public charger for one of the more city focused EVs. I won't buy an EV that doesn't have the range of a "normal" car and I'm not alone on that.
I'm 70 miles from the slopes. There's no charging at the lots and the last thing I want to do after 6+ hours of skiing is to stop and wait for a charge on the way home. That means having to have at least 140 miles + some extra to get around done the next day before hitting up a charger.
The averages are one thing, but a car that meats an average need will have limitations on even frequently occurring exceptions. The average falls short of a round trip to the airport even. If a car can't get me to and from the airport in a single charge then I can't choose that car.
The article rightfully recognizes at the end that this really isn't an issue of reeducating the customer. This is a matter of providing a product that meets the customers expectations.
I think the main problem with the article is that, yes, most days we only need range for short distances, that's where those numbers come from. But occasionally we have an appointment in the next city that's over a hundred kilometers away and we don't have time to charge the because we need to return with the same mileage. Like if we want to visit granny in a village a few hundred kilometers away with no charging spot anyway near.
So we don't need hundreds of kilometers of range every day. But we need it occasionally.
@sic_1 @unmagical talking to EV drivers, they have a different way of thinking about range and charging. They are aware of the limitations and just plan around them and it’s no big deal most of the time. There is usually a power point somewhere to charge.
EV driver here. I'd be happy to have a changing point available wherever I go but so far it's been a coin flip. Either occupied, broken, torn down or a different plug type. And if I finally get one, the login and payment process is painfully bad and takes 10 to 15 minutes to get going. If it works at all.
Good for them. Until I can get a full charge from zero in 5 minutes, EVs are not an acceptable replacement for most people.
@hightrix it is a transition which will take time and not everyone will want to move at the same pace. As this is part of the economic transition to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, there will no doubt be policies, incentives and penalties to facilitate the change. During the process there will be a heap technological change so what’s in market 10 years from now may well charge in 5 minutes.
Sounds good! I’ll check back with EVs in 10 years.