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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hybrids shift all of the hard work to the dead simple electric motors, and allow the gas engines to stay in their happy zone. There's a reason why priuses and other hybrids are know to be stupid reliable. Maintenance is also a lot less frequent because of that. So while you technically have to do it, you go MUCH longer in between doing them. I'd be comfortable doing 15k mile oil changes on a hybrid, but not on a gas car.

Granted this is GM so I'd expect them to fuck something up about these cars. But it's their trucks and those are like the only good things GM makes.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are several different configurations of hybrids so most of them don’t drive the wheels with only the electric motor. Most of them operate just like a gas car with twice as many parts to break by assisting the gas engine with the electric motor for a short range.

Gaskets and seals and spark plugs and air filters and fuel filters and all the maintenance items and fluid changes are often recommend based off time/mileage whichever comes first. So while you may not be adding up the miles as fast, the times between service is the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter if it's a parallel or series hybrid. The electric motor does the most work in stop and go traffic, and thats what also hurts your engine the most. The electric motor allows the gas engine to not have to stress itself as much, and run in much more optimal load ranges.

Gaskets and seals almost never have change intervals, it's replace them when they leak. Air filters are $30 and take 10 minutes to change so the labor rate is stupid cheap for those. Synthetic oil changes aren't that expensive, and last a lot longer than most people think. Many German (regular gas) cars suggest 1-2 year and 10-15k mile intervals for their oil changes, and even dealers will do those for under $100. In 5 years I've spent less than $1500 in maintenance on my regular ass gas Outback, and that's doing work way ahead of schedule, not waiting until Subarus prescribed times. Maintenance costs are not that big of a concern for new gas cars.

What holds people back from EVs is range anxiety. A phev gives them exactly what they want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I get the range anxiety problem and I’m all for burning less fossil fuels, but the cost to own a hybrid is as much as an ICE and an EV combined. People are better off getting an EV with enough range to drive around town (which isn’t much) and using charging stations if they roadtrip. At least that’s the best choice cost wise.