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Meat tastes delicious to vegans too! It's just that it's unconsciouble to purposely destroy the planet just for the taste!
How do you vegans know what meat taste like? You have to eat it to know what it tastes like, but if you eat meat, then are you a vegan?
Not to mention vegans keep saying they don't like eating meat, and yet you go out of their way to attempt to make food look and taste like "meat". So do you want to eat meat or not? Pick a lane, vegans.
Oh and humans ain't gonna save or destroy the planet simply by eating meat. The earth doesn't need us saving it, it's the human that will go extinct due to our own actions. The planet will live on way after we're gone, and new life will appear. The earth was able to survive billions of years before us, it WILL continue to survive looooooong after we go extinct.
I wasn't born a vegan, most vegans aren't. I ate meat, and I've since stopped eating meat. What an unusual argument to make.
Do you think vegans don't eat meat because they don't like the taste, and are trying to convince others that meat tastes bad? Vegans don't eat meat because of the harm it causes to animals and the planet. If I could have meat without that harm, I would eat it. That's why I eat food that emulates the taste and texture of meat. It sounds like you don't understand veganism at all, or are a very lazy troll.
No but it's a bloody good start, and why not do it? I'm not worried about the earth, it will go on. But I'm concerned for the literally millions upon millions of people who'll die from climate change caused by animal agriculture. I know you're clearly not concerned about needless animal suffering, but are you not concerned for human suffering either?
So other animal races can eat other animals but the human race, which is also animal in case you didn't know, cannot eat other animals? Talk about literal interspecies racism.
Animals also rape other animals. We shouldn't look to animals to check our moral compass. Animals eat other animals out of necessity, in order to survive. We as humans no longer need to do that, and have the mental capacity to choose not to.
If you still choose to kill and eat animals, purely to satisfy your tastebuds, then you are immoral. It's as simple as that.
Ah yes, raping, an activity that is the perfect comparison to eating meat. And yet everyone doesn't get arrested for eating meat, the justice system is more corrupted than I thought.
And as a species that has been around for 2.5 million years, we just started eating meat recently and definitely not for the last 2.4 million years. It's a miracle that we evolved instantly from a bunch of apes eating nothing but plants to omnivores with complex history and advanced technology in just a mere 2 thousand years.
Maybe having a brain the size of an orange ain't so bad, we definitely should evolve backward to that since we were able to survive for 2.498 million years without meat after all.
I'm not suggesting that rape and the act of killing and eating animals are equivalent. You listed the fact that "animals kill animals, we are animals" as justification for doing so. I posit that, using that logic, "animals rape animals, we are animals" is broken justification for rape.
Also the fact we have been doing something for millions of years is not justification to continue doing so. We've indiscriminately murdered people for millions of years, you wouldn't accept that as justification for murder.
Consumption of meat was certainly beneficial to our ancestors, as protein was hard to reliably attain. Now it isn't, we have access to all kinds of reliable plant protein.
To now make the conscious choice to kill and eat animals, ONLY for ones pleasure, is immoral.
Not only eating meat is the same thing as raping but also murdering people? Maybe PETA should take over the world and throw billions of people in jail then. Our ancestors must be really disappointed to know that they spent millions of years of evolution climbing to the top of the food chain just for you people to jump back down to the bottom.
I recommend you eat at least three times the portion of your precious beans to somewhat match the nutrients of a normal meal for a normal person. And actually season your "food" please, I'm very opening minded about food and try everything before judging, but yours are just so tasteless than even good old water has more flavor. Even a broke colleague student's meal is nowhere as sad as yours.
Whoa, this certainly got very ad-hominem all of a sudden.
As I've said earlier, I'm not drawing a moral equivalence between killing animals and rape, I'm suggesting your faulty "logic", (the Appeal To Nature Fallacy) can be used to justify anything animals and humans have historically done. And now you suggest you'd eat animals so as not to disappoint cavemen. A very bizarre argument. Although as I've said at the top, there is no valid argument against veganism.
Now you surely realise you eat vegan food every day? Fruit is vegan. Vegetables are vegan. Most indian food is at least vegetarian, which I'm sure you'd agree doesn't "taste like water". You know what is quite tasteless? Meat. Without all those vegan seasonings and spices, it's surprisingly bland. As for protein, funnily enough I actually had a seitan steak tonight, cooked it on my BBQ. It's 75% protein which is literally more than any meat.
It seems as though you're getting a bit agitated, trying to provoke a bit of flame out of me perhaps. So maybe it's best left there then.
Hold up, you vegan think everyone else eat nothing but meat? LOL, every heard of something called "a balanced diet"? Don't tell me you people actually believe you are herbivores and everyone else are pure carnivores. You might wanna google "omnivores", mate. Fun fact: Human isn't the only omnivore species on earth, so why don't you and your beloved PETA go and try to convert all of them to vegans so you can "save the planet".
Before you go, would you kindly tell which school you went to so I don't send my kids there?