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PySimpleGUI is now closed-source (github.com)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Previously LGPL, now re-licensed as closed-source/commercial. Previous code taken down.

Commercial users pay $99/year, free for personal use but each user has to make a free account after a trial period.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

@ebits21 #PySimpleGUI #python #opensource

🎢 Another bites the dust. 🎢

Moves like this are a bit... strange? It was on github. There are 1.8k forks, with intact LGPL. What is happening here? Is their dev work worth 99$/year ? Not saying people don't deserve to get paid for their work. I'm just not seeing the business case for this.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They claim that not enough people donated, hence the change in licensing. But yeah, I don’t see the business case. I imagine commercial devs will just move on to something else.

It’s just a wrapper for other GUI libraries.

That and I’m sure it’ll be forked.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Yeah, if people didn't think it was worth donating to before, they sure as shit aren't going to pay for it now that it's also closed source. What's their value prop even supposed to be here?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

How else do you expect their time to be paid for?

Donations?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Hey, A lot of people spent their precious free time to look at your project, test it out, and talking about it to their colleagues. How are you going to pay us for wasting however many minutes or hours of time spent on your supposedly open source project before you did the bait-and-switch?

(By "you" I meant the developer.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Donations can give you hobby money. Not "multi-millionaire, going to retire" money. If people who start FOSS projects don't want to admit that, then they are just looking for free popularity/shortcut to success. They can stop abusing the FLOSS community just so they can make a quick buck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's quite entitled and dishonest to expect free beta-testing, marketing, and clout from the use of FOSS as a shortcut for your product.

If you are sincere then you should know what you are getting into when you create that license.txt with LGPL terms on it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's quite entitled and dishonest to expect free beta-testing, marketing, and clout from the use of FOSS as a shortcut for your product.

Either show us where they voiced this expectation, or stop talking out of your ass.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The entire FOSS community works for very little compensation. You're not special. Read the fucking room. A lot of people spend their free time building cool shit to share with the community. You're a prick if you think that you're in the right calling people in the FOSS community entitled.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Everyone can see your mental state degenerate in real time. You're unable to stop yourself from flinging insults with every comment you type, be it here or in the other thread where you're currently losing a debate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Right, people usually carry a banner stating their intentions clearly and unambiguously.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@HKayn This may sound cold hearted and I swear I'm not:

There is no obligation for the world in general to pay someone for open source software. (right now)

Everyone should think long hard about writing software and donating time and effort because of this.

I don't like this state of things, I would prefer some kind of "general usefulness" tax financed grant thing.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And this is exactly why the dev of PySimpleGUI did what they did.

Whether they have a business case will depend on what happens on those forks. Will they be as maintained as the original was?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

not enough people donated

Sounds like entitlement to me