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Hawthorne Greenway update meeting.

Background is that the NIMBY's who live along Hawthorne came out in force to oppose this greenway. It was approved anyway, but they appealed to our new mayor. She decided to continue with the project, and this is a meeting with her where she explains why. Several city councilmembers are there too.

She goes over why it's not expensive, and how it's a foundational greenway.

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https://bloomington.in.gov/engineering/projects/hawthorne

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

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Chuck Livingston is concerned about whether everything is ADA compliant. Do bumpouts force people to walk in the middle of the street? ๐Ÿคจ Points out that the transportation plan doesn't discuss wheelchairs. Something about putting in a stop sign and being attacked because of it?

Mayor Thomson interjects that she wants everyone to feel safe expressing an opinion - also that some people wouldn't come to this meeting because of hate.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

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Stephanie (I think) asks about an MTP, not sure what that meant. Says she has data showing bumpouts are not needed. Would like the Atwater intersection improved, I think. Worried about people writing about her online ๐Ÿ™‚

Next speaker used to feel safe walking to campus but doesn't any more. Worried about how dangerous speeding bikers will be when she backs her car out of her driveway.

Someone interjects about the steep decline from Weatherstone to Hawthorne.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

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Leslie Hobbs-Ramsey doesn't think the straightening of the path is necessary. Thinks bikers shouldn't complain about having to ride an extra two blocks. Considers the stop signs to be sufficient traffic calming devices. Doesn't feel they were heard in the process - says all the feedback was negative and the city should have paid attention to that, and some stuff about nepotism and being blindsided by cost increases. Is really upset that project was approved by unelected folks.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

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Isabel Piedmont-Smith points out the transportation plan was approved by the city council, elected officials, and disputes the nepotism charge. Doesn't want the council to have veto power.

Jenny from Sherwood Green would have liked their neighborhood to have been more involved, wants traffic calming on Hillside. And fewer bumpouts. And says cyclists really hate bumpouts and speed bumps and traffic calming.

Next guy complains about the process, but the mayor will be leaving

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

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Mayor leaves. Hopi Stosberg points out that stop signs aren't really traffic calming.

Somebody said that we don't need traffic calming, we need traffic control. An ebiker agrees that stop signs are easy to blow through, I think.

Okay, people are continuing to talk even though we're way over the meeting time. I think I'll stop here!