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just finished persona 5 strikers earlier and have realized that I really like how it and p5r made you feel almost like you had friends, even if the overarching story was just alright the character interactions made me realize just how much I craved that kind of friendship, but that's besides the point I wanted to discuss. frequently I get intrusive thoughts, for example: earlier this week I was using some needlenose pliers to try and undo a stripped screw, and I couldn't stop thinking about what It would be like to rip all my fingernails out with it, how the release of tension would feel as the flesh holding the nail to the nailbed gave way, how the cold air would feel on the open wound, how the blood would run down my arm and drip off my elbow. I had to take a break and come back later because it was so distracting, although not particularly upsetting. the reason I mentioned the persona game is because the intrusive thoughts I got when playing the game were far more upsetting to me, enough that I had to stop playing the game on multiple occasions. I would imagine how these characters that had come to feel like friends might react to me doing something deplorable, how would they react if I took the pot I was cooking with and tossed the boiling water at one of them and then beat them with the pot? how would they react if I jumped off the railing 5 stories up mid conversation? how would they react If I forced myself upon one of them just out of sight of the others? I would never do any these things, but I cant help imagining them and It just makes me feel like shit, you know? Like the thought even existing in my head is enough for me to be written off as a monster, a danger to society. I even hesitate to post this imagining the reaction that such a confession might receive here. These games in particular weren't the only games In which I had such intrusive thoughts, but the psudo-friendship that you feel with the characters made it both especially upsetting, and hard to dismiss. even though I like the feeling of having friends that these kinds of games can provide and consider these games to be in my top 10, I think I'll have to avoid them for awhile because Its just so exhausting dealing with these intrusive thoughts.

I dont have any grand revelation or point to make at the end of this rambling paragraph, I just had to get this off of my chest because it was really eating away at me.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Not to this extent, no. I struggled with suicidal ideation for a long time though, planning it, mentally living out my last moments over and over, justifications playing on a loop in my head for hours. Not exactly the same I admit, but intrusive thoughts nevertheless.

Mindfulness and cognitive behavioural therapy are really effective at controlling intrusive thoughts though, they helped me to get a handle on my thoughts even though they didn't do much to help with my underlying depression. It sounds like the intensity and nature of your thoughts are really having a negative impact on you, I'd recommend looking into therapy if it's available and either way, try some mindfulness practices, there are plenty of free resources. Neither therapy or mindfulness practice is a panacea, but you absolutely can develop a healthier relationship to your own thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I deal with the suicidal thoughts alot to, but they dont feel as intrusive as I can somewhat rationalize them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I think that's why I bounced off therapy pretty hard, controlling suicidal thoughts only makes sense if you don't want to die. At least that's how I saw it. I guess I still see it that way, but thankfully I've gotten to a point in my life and my mind where I would rarely say I want to die. Practicing mindfulness is one of the things that helped in the long term though. Being able to identify thoughts that hurt and see them in a less reactive way is a useful skill in a dark place.