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A pro-Palestinian protest action briefly blocked all traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco Wednesday morning.

Starting at about 7:45 a.m. Protesters stopped cars and stretched banners across the roadway denouncing Israel's bombing of Rafah in the Gaza Strip and demanding that the U.S. stop arming Israel.

Northbound and southbound traffic on the bridge was at a standstill as of 8 a.m.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'd argue there are no "rational" protests because protests only exist when there is no path to a legal or democratic resolution available.

You don't protest your landlord fixing your broken heating because there's laws saying they have to. You don't protest the elected government, you protest when the elected government breaks the law without recourse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand what democracy is. Protest is a right in a democracy, because it can lead to positive change. It's part of the process. A protest can influence elected leaders.

Emotional protests are poorly thought out and can often lead to negative outcomes. You of course have a right to do an emotional protest, but you aren't accomplishing anything.

The Palestinian protests are the worst thought out protests I've ever seen. We just had one this week where I live and they protested a hospital founded by Canadian Jews. So everyone rightly condemned the protest as antisemitic and it didn't help their cause at all. But I guess they got to spend some time with others that are upset by the same thing they're upset about, that seems to be the only thing that's important to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Protest is only a right in a democracy because of... well... protest lol. If they banned protests they'd get worse protests than if they didn't, or else they have to murder dissidents (See Russia)

If we could've voted to end the war in Iraq, there would have been no protests about ending the war in Iraq because people would have just gone to the polls.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What are you on about? There is an entire procedure for lawful protest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Protesting is famously only done by people who get permits 🙄

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What does it say about your cause when the leadership can't be bothered to fill out a piece of paperwork?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What does it say about your cause when you care more about theoretical ambulances getting stuck than tens of thousands of children being indiscriminately killed in Gaza? Again, there are plans in place for this exact situation in every major city.

If you don’t like the first amendment and live in America, move somewhere else. Not every protest is going to wait weeks or months for a permit to sit on a sidewalk. That’s not how change happens, especially when the call for change is urgent.

Imagine being so bland and privileged that you’ve never cared enough to get up off your ass to fight for something. It’s a lot easier to sit on your butt and virtue signal about the people who are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which is used when there is no democratic or legal recourse to a situation. What is the democratic or legal resource, then, for an average citizen to get their government to publicly denounce genocide in Israel/Palestine?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe your question was asked in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

it was a rhetorical question because there is none

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes literally no lawful way to protest. None whatsoever

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

not what I said, which was:

What is the democratic or legal resource, then, for an average citizen to get their government to publicly denounce genocide in Israel/Palestine?

...

There is none.

Look forward to you telling me what is the democratic or legal resource for an average citizen to get their government to publicly denounce genocide in Israel/Palestine.