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What I meant is that it's the same level of propagandizing. Also, this isn't a 'leftist platform'. You can't just claim things. FOSS isn't inherently leftist.
In today's world when the right is fascist and is deepthroating corporations, yes it is leftist.
It's not propagandizing to post memes you personally don't agree with. FOSS is in fact inherently leftist, it rejects both the profit motive and individual ownership of IP.
That is just not true. Free Software developers still have the copyright to whatever they make and nobody says that they can't make money - it's free as in freedom, not price. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
Would you consider Meta's Threads as FOSS? It's connected to the fediverse. What about Bluesky? Are they inherently leftist?
The fediverse isn't FOSS itself. FOSS kinda requires being Free and Open Source, lol
foss isn't, no, but free software is.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
@Freesoftwareenjoyer uh huh...
the free software movement has always eschewed the term "open source" since it was popularized by Eric Raymond.
further, Lemmy is developed by the admins of the flagship instance lemmy.ml who are avowed communists.
if you don't know what you're talking about about, you can just keep your mouth shut.
You should read these posts by the creators of Lemmy
https://lemmy.ml/post/70280
https://lemmy.eus/post/5460
First points out that lemmy.ml is not the flagship. Second goes through that lemmy was not intended to be left, but was intended to just not be US focused. I am okay with that but if the suggestion is that Lemmy needs to maintain leftist ideologies throughout the FOSS communities then that's just wrong. If I get proven wrong and you can prove that these communities need to be leftist anti capitalist then I would be happy to close my Lemmy account asap.
whether they like it or not, they are the flagship: the lead developer is the admin. if they decide they need a feature, then it will be implemented and everyone else will get that feature, too. no other instance has such a short lead between their feature implementation and everyone else'.
Okay? I don't see how any of this is relevant.
they explicitly state what they think "flagship instance" was being used to mean 3 years ago. i clearly used it with a different definition. your link is worse than irrelevant: an argument that relies on it falls prey to a logical fallacy called equivocation.
and this meme smacks of an appeal to ridicule. it doesn't make what you said any more true or undermine the strength of my position. it's pure rhetoric.
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Updooted! Le heckin funny M'Sir. Tips fedora
I'll say it again though. If you can prove to me that Lemmy in it's entirety needs to maintain a leftist focus then I will delete my account. You can be the one to do that Bigmouth. I will even post my hog before I leave as is tradition.
more appeal to ridicule
> prove to me that Lemmy in it’s entirety needs to maintain a leftist focus
no one is saying that. i'm saying you knew what you were getting (or you know now), and whining isn't going to change it or make anyone sympathetic.
So is your answer
A. Lemmy is inherently leftist therefore I need to not expect otherwise
B. I need to stop whining, this is how FOSS works
C. All of the above
Is this correct?
mostly a
I'm not going to tell you you need to stop whining, I'm just saying it is probably falling on deaf ears at best, and likely is actively bothering some. but you do what you want.
Okay. Why is Lemmy.world defederated from hexbear and lemmygrad if lemmy is inherently leftist? Why is beehaw defederated from lemmy.world?
have you never organized with leftists? i was in one organization that formed in 2020 that, by early 2021 was two DIFFERENT organizations (both abandoning even the old name) (lets call them "b" and "c"), and then c splintered, and became c and d, then c splintered again and became c and e. as far as i know, b doesn't exist at all anymore, nor does c or d. there was one more splintering that took place within c, leading to an organization f. but for a few moments, we were all gloriously at each others' throats.
so, to answer your question, i don't know the particulars of their schisms, but i'm sure that they have good reason.
major edit:
i just want to say while group c had a lot of good theory and experience organizing, group b was the best of us, and all they did was look out for each other. they might not have had analysis, but they did the fucking work. the rest of us were committed marxists and anarchists, and that fact got in the way of doing real work. pour one out for the people who did the work.
>if the suggestion is that Lemmy needs to maintain leftist ideologies throughout the FOSS communities then that’s just wrong
i wouldn't say that. i don't think anyone did say that. but if you're going to whine about leftist content in those communities, i don't think you're going to find much sympathy, and i don't think you really deserve any, either.
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