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[–] papertowels@lemmy.one -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, how would you define "does something good"? Live another year?

What it boils down to this: can you provide a concrete example of a metric that you'd accept as proof that it actually does something good? If not, then you're just setting up a moving goal, and saying "bring me a rock"

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's exactly what scientists are supposed to do. You can't ask a random person on a forum to come up with a solid experiment setting...

Let me rephrase the original question: are there any solid, peer-reviewed studies, that have looked into life-extension and concluded a positive effect?

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I can ask a random person on a forum asking about arbitrary levels of "realness" to solidify what they mean.

Maybe I wasn't clear. I'm not asking for metrics that prove, without a doubt that something works. That is clearly what scientists should be doing, not, as we agree, a random person on the internet.

I'm asking for what metrics OP would accept as evidence that would convince them something works. That is something that scientists would not have a say in.

Would peer reviewed papers qualify? Would a random blogpost? Where is their bar set for things that would actually change their mind?

I'm actually not sure where the line is drawn for "life extension", and would appreciate your two cents. Does a healthy diet, regular exercise, and ample sleep fall under that in your experience? Why or why not?

I know this guy does a lot of super off the wall techy stuff, but the foundation of what he focuses on seems to be pursuing these things (diet, sleep, exercise) with militaristic discipline.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

this is expressly not debate club

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

OP asks question

I ask for what would be an acceptable answer

This is not debate club.

Sounds good boss.

Alternatively,

Y'all seem to know a lot about "life extension" as a category, idk who the names you're talking about even are.

I ask for y'all's opinions about what counts as life extension.

This is not debate club

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EDIT: just read the community description after stumbling in here from browsing all and I see what you mean, carry on with the venting lmfao.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

most sealion shit I've seen in a while

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Haha yeah, my b, I came here from browsing all and didn't realize that was a rhetorical question and that y'all are just here to vent.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

it doesn't seem necessarily rhetorical, you just don't have anything of substance to respond with. people don't like you jerking off in their replies

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 10 months ago

let’s not