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ditch discord! (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Community
The main place where the community gathers is our Discord server. Feel free to join there to ask questions, help out others, share cool things you created with Typst, or just to chat.
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[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No one wants their private/semi-private chats to be indexable or searchable. The whole POINT is to not have what you say broadcast to all and sundry.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hear what you're saying, but that is exactly why Discord is shit for official communities like in the meme. There's no reason why an open source project should rely on Discord for troubleshooting and feature requests and enthusiasm. Discord was meant for things like video games and friend chats, not instances where data discovery is paramount to growing the community.

There is a reason thar Discord communities trend toward toxic, and it is the insular weirdness that the platform enables and reinforces. Forums make much more sense for projects. Discord ends up with a bunch of no lifers ruining the communities. Been through it far too often with things like genre appreciation groups to open source projects. Reminds me of being a kid and encountering the, frankly, losers chasing people out of IRC.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For open-source projects and stuff that needs to be public, I can feel you.

What these chucklefucks are asking for is to make ALL Discord content indexable and searchable, even extremely private intimate things, and that's absolutely unacceptable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Assuming I'm one of the chucklefucks you're talking about, that's not what we're saying. The meme and my comments are about software that somebody found. If somebody found it, it's already public. Why should such a software community hold its discussions in private?

I'm very pro-privacy. The topic here is not private software, it's public software.

Useful looking software that somebody stumbles across and wants to learn more about is what we're talking about.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's your proposed solution that's the problem. The answer isn't to make Discord public, it's to convince people to move off of it, and quite honestly, if you want people to leave Discord so badly, you'd be better off setting up separate public forums for the open source projects you are interested in on your own and convincing/bribing respected members of the Discord to post there, or copy/paste technical info there.

I feel the same way about Lemmy so I sympathize with you, honestly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The answer isn't to make Discord public

You're absolutely right. Aside from me not caring at all what happens to discord, my explanation points out that even having IRC chat logs public doesn't surface solutions in search engines, because chat isn't good for that.

It sounds like you really misunderstood what I was saying. Public software that values community as a long lasting place for users to find solutions should not be promoting chat for those end-user facing discussions, they should be promoting forums.

Plus the original meme isn't saying anything related to making discord publicly searchable, it's saying "fuck discord, I'd rather not use that software than use discord."