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Plummeting food prices feed steep annual drop amid renewed calls to stimulate economy and offset weakening demand

China’s consumer prices fell at their fastest pace in 15 years in January, as the world’s second-largest economy sank deeper into deflation amid weakening demand.

Data released on Thursday showed that China’s consumer price index tumbled last month, falling by 0.8% compared with a year earlier. It marks the fourth consecutive month of declines, as well as the sharpest drop since September 2009, when the global economy was still grappling with aftershocks from the 2008 banking crisis.

Food prices were the biggest drag on the headline inflation figure, having fallen by 5.9% on an annual basis, due in part to a 17% slump in pork prices. Fresh vegetables fell by 12.7%, while fruit dropped by 9.1%.

China’s economy has been struggling to recover from the Covid-19 pandemic after restrictions were lifted in late 2022. It has also been dealt a significant blow by the contraction in its indebted property sector, leading to the developer Evergrande being ordered to liquidate last month.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Food prices are down! This is terrible! I'm so fucking confused!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

When prices drop everyone holds their money waiting for it to drop more, which basically kicks off a vicious cycle deal

You want a currency that is staying relatively stable, becoming much more valuable is an in-obvious problem but much like becoming much less valuable, it precipitates a fall off in consumer activity that can have pretty ugly tack on effects.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And if food becomes too cheap producers will stop making it, which has its own obvious problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Fun fact, this is why price setting and price ceilings don't work,

The Nordic states have discovered a better solution is to have a maximum annual adjustment range, I think a refined approach would be to tie that adjustment to the federal interest rate, not only does it avoid gouge markets, it also balances the equation of vlas interests so that the wealthy and working class both have interests in raising and lowering interest rates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That's an issue in a complete free-market state, but China is still nominally communist, i imagine that state control will occur before food shortages occur.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What? I’ve never in my life heard of anyone holding off on their eating habits because they thought food was too cheap. Where are you getting this information?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's not the "too cheap" it's the sudden very noticeable drop in price, and if they don't notice at first, the continued drop in price to match the deflated currency value

Just look at everyone who's lost their shirt on crypto, hodl hodl hodl until the value starts dropping again and suddenly whoever got out last is poor as a grass farmer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So am I understanding then that you’re not talking about average consumers but bulk buyers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

No them too, you're not gonna see people willingly starve themselves in this pattern but you will see them go out of their way to avoid spending more than they have to on it

You're trying to assume that the entire premise is invalid because people will naturally have different spending habits for necessity, comfort, and luxury goods.