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TLDR: questions need to be asked on proportionality, but the attack as a whole is justified.
Proportionality is not equal strength, or even number of people killed. Its engaging in a way that minimizes civilian casualties and preserves civilian infrastructure while eliminating a threat.
The issue is that Hamas is using civilian structures to fight its war - logistics, armed, housing - and seizing civilian aid convoys for their own use. Hamas is deliberately placing civilians in harms way, removing protection from civilian structures, and denying aid. It is not a war crime to put a bomb through the roof of a hospital that an opposition armed forces is using, but it does kill civilians.
Is their response proportional. There are questions that need to be asked and views debated. Blocking aid convoys for civilians is not proportional, but what if you are observing your opposing force steal them from their own civilians and they aren't getting it anyway? What intel was used to decide on attacks on hospitals, temples, graveyards,was it sufficient to justify the attack, and how were civilian casualties minimized?
Was the attack justified? Yes. Hundreds killed, hostages taken. Israel has a right to defend itself from a designated terrorist organization.
None of this however justifies individual actions where civilians are killed in cold blood. Hang the lot of them.
You asked a question, they answered it seriously. You may disagree with that answer, but responding with a meme makes it clear you're not a serious person.
It's especially jarring because we're talking about literal war crimes, the holocaust and possible genocide in Gaza. You don't seem to grasp the suffering that entails, and seem to think it's all a bit of a joke. Just another topic to have a fun little internet argument over.
Like you're some 13 year old kid posting an emoji response to a decapitation video on 4chan.
It's not a great look to be honest.
I treat genocide deniers with the seriousness they deserve. Are you seriously defending a genocide denier? It’s not a great look to be honest.
Vote difference says yes. You wanna try some facts at some point?
Why? They obviously don’t matter to a Zionist.