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submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

theiss-explanation we're never getting change outside of third worldism bruh

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

If you use that sort of 10 million foot view then everyone outside of AES states is a different shade of Nazi. This isn't a useful frame of analysis.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I think there's a space between "6,000,000,000 people outside AES states" and "member of top 10,000 people in global imperial hegemon" but whatever helps you justify thinking Bernie or AOC as anything good and not just tools to subvert radicalism

[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

You wouldn't say the only Nazis in Nazi Germany were the leaders, right? Obviously their enthusiastic supporters were Nazis, too, and you might say the libs who went along for the ride were just a moderate type of Nazi. So if you're calling the political leadership of every country outside of AES states different flavors of Nazi, you're calling much of the world Nazis, which is what I mean by "not a useful frame of analysis." We have to go into detail enough to parse out which people can be brought around to our side and which can't.

Bernie or AOC as anything good and not just tools to subvert radicalism

Those two are useful to the extent they start people down the leftist path, and harmful to the extent people get stuck thinking they're the best possible solution. When we're talking to baby leftists we shouldn't say "this person who brought you left of the Democratic Party is a Nazi," because we'll sound unhinged, and because (as I outlined above) that's not useful analysis anyway. Our take on the Bernies and AOCs of the world should be "they have some good ideas, but here's where their failings are and why you should move past them."

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