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[-] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We're talking about the more than half of America that is fat and sometimes diabetic.

Those people are less healthy than people who eat no processed food

Ed. Updated to make it more clear I'm not claiming most Americans are diabetic

[-] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I do not believe you that more than half of Americans are diabetic. That's just preposterous.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Easy enough to check. Looks like 11.6%. Higher than the 6.2% of EU diabetics, but hardly "half of America".

EDIT: Looking more closely at the European numbers rather than simply the average is super interesting. Turkey has basically US numbers for diabetes. Ireland at 3.2% has comparatively no diabetes. For all this talk about the "Mediterranean diet" and olives being a superfood, Spain and Portugal have very high diabetes numbers. I guess we should be talking about the "Greek diet" instead.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I think dessert is a big part of Spanish culture. Idk anything about Portuguese culture though.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Dessert is definitely not a big part of Spanish culture, there are a select few small deserts that are offered everywhere, but not that far off a yoghurt, spanish usually just have a coffee after food (a small espresso shot maybe some milk, but that's all)

[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

They mostly talk about Italy and France as living longer than current nutrition models expect

The Greek diet that science cares about is the post war Greek poverty diet. Not much food, mostly whatever they could grow in their community, and pull from the sea

So fish, octopus, olives, leafy greens, tomatoes

It's not an easy diet to follow.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It's about 12% only a few percent more than the rest of the world. Obesity is another story tho.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I really meant the obesity rate. I know that doesn't equal diabetic, but it's on the pathway

I should change it to "and/or"

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, obesity is a rising epidemic worldwide. European and Asian countries are importing American fast food restaurants & food options, and our exercise habits are changing drastically as we all become more computer-bound. The USA does have a bigger issue with obesity now though than most European and Asian countries (if not all of them). It's sad, because it's totally preventable, even with all of the shitty options existing.

A lot of the people that are considered medically obese aren't what you'd actually consider obese, meaning they're not extremely fat. At 25% body fat a man is considered obese, even if he's a skinny looking gamer. As far as raw data goes, bodybuilders often get categorized as overweight or obese too. Any medical records that use BMI will show a muscular person as overweight. Anyways, what I'm getting at is that the data doesn't accurately reflect what sort of condition many people are actually in, but being actually overweight and fat is becoming a lot more common now. Look at Chunk from The Goonies movie. He was considered very fat when I was a kid, but he just looks like an average kid now. We really need to push each other to turn over a new leaf... or eat one.

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