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    [โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    You are. That is what got the ball rolling to him losing his job, which you brought up. You said that yourself earlier.

    I think those opinions are wrong. But again, the last time I'm aware of them being stated before being changed was over. a. decade. ago. Are you going to repeat the same points in different words over and over?

    So far, your arguments are:

    • He held bad opinions over a decade ago and hasn't stated them since (but people never change!)

    • How convenient he changed them 4 days after calls to resign (it's almost like he had no prompt or reason to talk about them before then)

    Anything else?

    [โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    No I didn't bring it up. I mentioned his views on paedophilia, you brought up he repented, I said he only did it to save his skin because he was in the process of being ousted at the time (in part due to Epstein, but I didn't talk about that because it's irrelevant to his view that child rape is fine), then you went all-in on that because deep down you know that raping children is inexcusable.

    Look, we're getting nowhere. We're just going to have to agree to disagree. I'm against having cult followings of people who are proudly pro paedophilia, and you aren't.

    If you like people who are pro child rape and pro bestiality, you're free to do so. Freedom of expression and all that.

    I'm ending it here. Goodbye. I hope you get to re-evaluate your position on child rape proponents, but I can't force it on you.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    "then you know that raping children is inexcusable" yes, I do know that. Are you implying I don't think that? I'm defending Stallman, and Stallman never did that either.

    Notice how my whole argument has been DENOUNCING these things while noting that Stallman has changed his opinions on them (and never did them!). Go find one quote where I defended any of these actions. So why now are you trying to claim I'm actually okay with these things? Because I'm not.

    You were talking about why he lost his job, so me bringing up the catalyst for that is perfectly reasonable in my opinion. Especially when it shows that a lot of it was sheer lying AND showcases his current opinion that it is bad, which was clearly present before this whole thing started.

    I am opposed to child rape proponents, but thankfully Stallman is not a proponent of that. Stallman has always been a proponent of consent, and when he came to understand children cannot consent under any circumstances, his opinions changed to reflect that.

    I don't understand your motives for putting words into my mouth and claiming I'm defending child rape (when again, I have explicitly stated on multiple occasions that it is wrong). But I don't appreciate it. I'm done, have a nice day.

    EDIT: Okay now this prick is just making stuff up, about me and about Stallman. He never said anything even REMOTELY SIMILAR to what has been said below (and again, has CHANGED the opinions that sparked this argument in the first place completely, last stated over a decade ago). I wonder what would happen if I told them I am a minor myself?

    My whole point, for the last time, is that his OLD opinions are WRONG, and that his CURRENT opinions are RIGHT. The mental gymnastics being used to paint me as someone who supports his OLD opinions is insane.

    EDIT 2: The reason I still replied after being told "bye" is because I was being slandered lol. I'm sure if someone slandered this prick they'd do the exact same thing.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Told you bye so didn't read.

    Bye bye paedophile apologist. Keep worshiping a guy who thinks kids should be used as sex toys.

    I really hope cancer claims Stallman in a way that is gruesome. Fuck him and fuck anybody else who loves the idea of kids being held down and fucked. He deserves a painful death, and hopefully he'll be remembered as the creep that he is.