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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah. DRM in its current version is morally wrong. Circumventing it is perfectly fine. It's essentially an industry wide price collusion, which I'll note is illegal, but will never be broken up because the US antitrust agencies have been hollowed out to nothing.

In the same vein, if an employer refuses to pay you for time worked, your chances of recovering that pay is slim. In that circumstance, I would say taking the amount you are owed from the till is perfectly fine, morally. You would probably disagree, because you're a boot licker and believe that whatever the law says is morally good. I understand the concept in abstract, but I will fundamentally never be able to put myself in the head space of someone like you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Dude, in this example you're the employer stealing from the worker!

The only thing wrong here is people that are unable to admit that what they're doing has consequences on the people who created the media they're pirating and using mental gymnastic like I've never seen before to justify their choice and to feel morally justified to do it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Separate example. Ignore everything else we've been talking about. I'm trying to illustrate where you stand on morality.

Would it be wrong to steal from the till?

I suspect you'd say yes, which means we have fundamental, irreconcilable differences in how we view the entire concept of morality. Which then, relating back to piracy, means we will never see eye to eye because we disagree about the most fundamental aspects of the argument.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's an irrelevant example in this conversation because you're reversing the roles.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not related to piracy at all, it's just an illustration of your personal views. There are no roles. It's not an analogy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Then in this case I would tell you that taking the money from the till also makes you a thief because you're getting an unverified amount of money on which you didn't pay taxes and there are legal means to get the money you're owed.

Laws would agree with me and if you want to live in society then I'm sorry to tell you that it's something we can't do without.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Like I thought, we just have entirely different worldviews at an extremely fundamental level. There's no seeing eye to eye because we're approaching it differently.