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What are your thoughts on El Salvador's crackdown on gangs? (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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So Mr. Bitcoin President of El Salvador has deployed a massive wave of incarcerating violent gang members to combat endemic violence in the country, but also at the cost of civil liberties and also not addressing the root causes of the gang violence in the first place.

Of course, El Salvador has been among the most violent countries in the world in terms of murder rates and violent crimes so something had to be done, but I'm not convinced that this crackdown will do anything but kick the can down the road.

Thoughts? Also, apologies for the Guardian link it was the first summary to come up when I searched it :ohnoes:

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Any response to any crime wave that isnt "feed, house, and medically treat everyone for free and give them good jobs" is like. Pretty explicitly fascist lol. Any "violent crackdown on thugs" is just training for any interal communist/insurrectionary threat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Pretty explicitly fascist

what do you make of this? i think that's hyperbolic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Was it coupled with "feed, house, and medically treat everyone for free and give them good jobs"?

It's Deng so probably not,

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

i just don't think it's fascist even if it's not the ideal solution

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In 1979, urban unemployed workers within the People's Republic of China has reached 20 million, the highest number of unemployed since the founding of People's Republic of China. In Beijing alone, unemployment amounted to some 400,000 accounting for 8.6% of the city's total population. On average one person was unemployed for every 2.7 urban residents. The maximum number of unemployed persons in Tianjin was 380,000, accounting for 11.7% of the city's total population. The unemployed also included the sent down youth forced to retreat into the mountains and the countryside during the cultural revolution, accounting for the newly increased urban idle population.

But I'm sure it rules that they tortured and killed a bunch of ppl

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I said it was unideal but not fascist, not that it "rules". I agree with you that fighting poverty is the best solution to crime, I just dislike the label fascist being used for a concept so broad it's happened in basically every society including socialist ones. Also I sent NATOpedia because it's a short overview and easily readable, maybe take its specifics with a grain of salt.