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somebody gave Thiel idea of methhead olympics (www.independent.co.uk)

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/11485138

Peter Thiel, the billionaire co-founder of PayPal, has joined a multi-million dollar investment in the controversial Enhanced Games, a proposed Olympics-style mega-event without drug testing.

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The idea is the brainchild of Dr Aron D’Souza, the Australian lawyer who helped mastermind Thiel’s proxy war against news media organisation Gawker, which led to Gawker’s bankruptcy in 2016.

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But in a recent interview with The Independent, D’Souza was defiant, and outlined how he hoped the Enhanced Games would not only shake up the world of sport, but would provide a public platform for life-extending science to thrive.

“This is the route towards eternal life,” D’Souza said. “It’s how we bring about performance-medicine technologies, that then create a feedback cycle of good technologies, selling to the world, more revenue, more R&D, to develop better and better technologies.

“And what is performance medicine about? It’s not about steroids and getting jacked muscles. It’s about being a better, stronger, faster, younger athlete for longer. And who doesn’t want to be younger for longer?”

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Immediately what comes to mind is Bill Burr’s bit about drug use in cycling and how we should pit roided up guys against other roided dudes. So maybe the idea came from there.

Also, important to point out that D’Souza is not an MD, just for context. (I mean it should be obvious from him pushing PEs in this way)

“And what is performance medicine about? It’s not about steroids and getting jacked muscles. It’s about being a better, stronger, faster, younger athlete for longer”

Ok but what physically makes you stronger or faster? It’s not, say, confidence borne from the magic juice you’re proposing. It’s the jacked muscles. Borne from said magic juice.

“No one within athletics takes the Enhanced Games seriously,” said Lord Sebastian Coe, head of World Athletics, on a recent podcast.

I mean that’s just because they haven’t thrown enough money into the pit yet. Hope you’re listening Pete!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@swlabr @skillissuer Not sure what a Bill Burr is but that's a traditionally idiotic statement. Doping in cycling isn't about steroids and hasn't been for decades - it's an endurance sport so these days when it occurs it's all about the blood doping, all EPO and transfusions and stuff to get your red cell count as high as possible. This is a really dangerous thing to do if you want to avoid joining the list of young cyclists who dropped dead of mysterious heart problems in the last 20 years, and if you suddenly start saying *that* is okay there will be a lot more kids having cardiac arrests because their blood resembles Heinz Cream of Tomato Soup.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

https://youtu.be/O9YL04v-J5U Bill burr bit here.

My bad, Burr doesn’t suggest a roids olympics.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

It’s like they refuse to understand why we banned PEDs. Like I’m generally in the “destroy your body if you insist” camp, but they will destroy your body if used at performance enhancing levels. There’s three healthy human ranges for testosterone, male, female, and between them. If you’re in the wrong healthy range it’ll fuck with your brain, but if you go much above male your body is going to start suffering for it. And that’s the one that all of us produce for all of our lives. Other PEDs can do some real bad shit to you. It’s part of why wrestlers don’t live long