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GOP legislatures in some states seek ways to undermine voters' ability to determine abortion rights (abcnews.go.com)

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Legislative efforts in Missouri and Mississippi are attempting to prevent voters from having a say over abortion rights

Legislative efforts in Missouri and Mississippi are attempting to prevent voters from having a say over abortion rights, building on anti-abortion strategies seen in other states, including last year in Ohio.

Democrats and abortion rights advocates say the efforts are evidence that Republican lawmakers and abortion opponents are trying to undercut democratic processes meant to give voters a direct role in forming state laws.

“They’re scared of the people and their voices, so their response is to prevent their voices from being heard," said Laurie Bertram Roberts, executive director of Mississippi Reproductive Freedom Fund. “There’s nothing democratic about that, and it’s the same blueprint we’ve seen in Ohio and all these other states, again and again.”

Since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to abortion in 2022, voters in seven states have either protected abortion rights or defeated attempts to curtail them in statewide votes. Democrats have pledged to make the issue a central campaign topic this year for races up and down the ballot.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I think the problem in the “mother’s life” part lies with the politicians who see this not as a moral issue, but rather as a tool to control the evangelical vote. They don’t actually understand it or care, they just want to control the population so they can remain in power, and don’t want nuance.

I disagree with this part a bit. The evangelicals had no problems with exceptions for rape or life of the mother. I could be wrong here, but I don't think they had much of an issue even with fetal anomalies not compatible with life.

It wasn't until Trump came along that they suddenly took up issue with the exceptions. And that's because Trump took the party in a direction where the answer to everything was just "Ban it", and when people started asking the obvious questions about how everything was supposed to work, the only answer they had was "Ban that too. And that. And that. And ban that as well, just in case.".

Remember, the current war over LGBT rights started off as a fight over bathrooms in schools, and then just spiraled out of control because of their mantra of banning whatever they don't like and anything even tangentally related to it, and then banning more when people point out loopholes. The war over abortion was a stalemate for decades until Trump came along and introduced the same nuke-it-from-orbit tactic. The southern border. Everything. That's how things are handled now in the Republican party. If you don't like it, ban it. And if something else exists that creates a loophole, ban that too. And if that breaks something else, well then ban that too.

This isn't about controlling the vote. This is about being pulled to the right in a party that will not accept anything but being pulled even further to the right. Yesterday's reasonable exceptions are today's political weaknesses.