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[–] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago (6 children)

A note to folks in this thread:

It's good to challenge white supremacy in all of its incarnations at all time. It's certainly good to refuse to be proud to be white considering what the concept of whiteness is.

It's another thing to performatively hate yourself in a cocktail of millennial self-deprecation and liberal white guilt. It's not revolutionary, and it's probably not good for you.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think people here are predominantly the former and not the later. The later is just rank liberalism. Important distiction though

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Every one here is a liberal except me liberalism

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Oh it certainly does, not trying to say it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's another thing to performatively hate yourself in a cocktail of millennial self-deprecation and liberal white guilt. It's not revolutionary, and it's probably not good for you.

Ah but have you considered that I want to self deprecate in a way that aligns with my political values?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hating yourself for being white aligns with your political values?

Did I miss something in State and Revolution?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Actually the book your looking for is Settlers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I read settlers and Bscklash and now i wwnt to put a bullet in my head and one in ebery other white /s /uj /j /us /gen

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Be a race traitor.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

its okay you can name them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's terrible because if I wanted to be something other than white all the things I might have felt any associated with are claimed by white supremacy. Like, damn. Which is worse being proud white or proud of you british ancestry?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's not entirely true. There's a lot of folk and other culture that's solidly left wing and associated with the working classes. It's just mostly more english/welsh/cornish/scottish than british specifically.

Even then if you want to enjoy 19th century sea shanties it's fine, there are people to be proud of if you look, like the Reaver (anti slavery) squadron.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

look, like the Reaver (anti slavery) squadron.

Cant find anything about this on Google. Just fictional stuff like Star Wars and Warhammer. Can you drop a link or something?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa_Squadron

They weren't particularly effective and they didn't get anywhere near enough support, but they were enthusiastic and the Kru People were also major participants, as were many released or escaped slaves. It just makes me feel good, thinking about Master and Commander, but they're hunting down slavers and not French Revolutionaries.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I've been trying to deprogram the whiteness out of myself. Like I resent the fucking concept of whiteness and what it has done to me personally and the world generally. Fuck racists for thinking I share any common bond with them based on some phrenology-ass category.

Maybe it sounds weird, but I've found it helps to focus on my actual ethnic "heritage".