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    What do you guys do when you want to run unmaintained programs? (lemmy.world)
    submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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    I recently wanted to run tegaki, and my experience is pretty much summed up by the meme. I consider myself fairly tech-savvy, but I just couldn't figure out how to compile it. So I just gave up, downloaded the .exe and put it into a fresh wine prefix. After installing CJK fonts, everything ran fine. Now I'm trying to get gpaint to work. ~~My distro recently dropped support for gtk+2 (which I am fairly pissed about, since it's the last good version of GTK+), so I have to set that up manually as well.~~ [[[ EDIT: gtk2 is alive and well. I was just being and idiot and searching for gtk2, when the package is actually called gtk+2. ]]] I installed all of the dependencies that ./configure told me to, but I still kept getting obscure errors when running make.

    So, here's my question: what tools make the process of running abandonware easier? Docker containers? Also, what can I use to package abandonware in order to make it easy for other people to run? Flatpak? Appimages? Any advice is appreciated!

    Also, inb4 "just find a modern alternative". That would be a reasonable solution. I don't want reasonable solutions!

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    My distro recently dropped support for gtk+2 (which I am fairly pissed about, since it’s the last good version of GTK+)

    Stuff like this completely throws the shared libraries idea in the bin. There are lots of benefits, sure, but none of them matter when your program won't even start.

    Please name and shame your distro. GTK2 is a core component of userspace for many users, just as important as glibc and bash. Maintaining it might be annoying, but it's the lesser of two evils.

    My distro (Void Linux) dropped support for qt4 a few years back. Now I'm running QUCS in wine. "win32 is the only stable ABI in Linux"

    (And yes you're right 2 is the last good version of GTK+. Gtk3 and 4 look and feel so much worse, they make me feel like I'm being punished.)

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    False alarm! I'm on Void Linux too, gtk2 is alive and well! I was just being an idiot and searching for gtk2 while the real package is called gtk+2. I absolutely agree about gtk3 and gtk4. With gtk4 its like they didn't even bother. Client-side window shadows?!? seriously???. I personally prefer CLI and TUI for my apps, but gtk2 would be my second pick if I ever need to develop a GUI app. Partly because if my app ever gets popular, it would piss off a lot of those updooter types. I would love to use something even more minimalist like nuklear but sadly that's missing a lot of actually useful desktop integration like IME support (as far as I understand).

    “win32 is the only stable ABI in Linux”

    kek I'll be stealing this one

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    Glad you found a fix :)

    FWIW I was running "xbps-query -s gtk2" out of curoisity last night and only saw "gtk2-engines", which I thought was odd.