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The only way this works (if I am to take their moderation at face value) would be for us to make more bot accounts than them.
With that said, it's already a terrible system that benefits the 1% (who is very capable of paying devs/server farms/bot nets/etc to boost their investments).
Allowing the bots is allowing the 1% to choose the exact narrative that we see on Lemmy.
I'm pretty sure lw admins don't want sock puppets and bot accounts either. They have access to ip info and other details and other users are also vigilant against it. But against dedicated actors there's no perfect protection, no matter the countermeasures. If there's instances which are enabling this behaviour more overtly, they tend to get defederated
The moderation over the aforementioned accounts seems... one sided to say the least
I (read: IMHO) would argue that they do want sock puppet/bot accounts because it boosts the perceived traffic by laymen, yeah?
Don't assume malice so easily. Running around fediverse server is a lot of work and it's also unpaid work.
To add on to my point above, the only reason that they re-federated w/ us is because of the traffic they were losing to the the "tiny" community here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy
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A bot for a bot makes the Lemmyverse a bot-infested shithole.
Do the points matter that much to you?
If you have a post they don't want seen, the downvotes inherently work to remove it from all the instances that use downvotes.
You don't have to want up votes to see why a lemmy bot net is a bad thing.
I think a better solution would be to simply ban malicious bot accounts and vote manipulators from the instance, and encourage other instances to do the same. Maybe we could set up something on Fediseer which indexes accounts flagged as bots or abusers to make this easier. If these accounts were banned from many major instances their vote manipulation would only affect Lemmy.world and ones that didn't ban the accounts. Would be better to ban them and purge their votes from the DB than it would to counter them with sock-puppets.