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https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-truth-about-fats-bad-and-good
To summarize:
Trans fat is the bad one and is even banned in many countries including the USA. It is formed as a byproduct when making many processed and fast foods.
You should get less than 2% of your fat calories from trans fat - preferably you should avoid them at all costs.
Saturated fat isn't as bad as trans but it's still not beneficial, the jury may still be out on exactly how bad it is, but it's not healthy so it should be limited.
You should get less than 10% of your fat calories from saturated fat
Unsaturated fat is healthy, it's good for you and it's required in our diet as our bodies need it and can't make our own.
I feel like my calorie tracking app is really harsh about saturated fats
It gives a D grade to even the tiniest bit of coconut
Might be because fats are very energy dense. They net about 9 calories per gram. However, if the app is only tracking calories without context, it is going to miss calories-over-time and satiety. Fats tak longer to metabolize and tend to be good at triggering and maintaining feeling sated.
A lot about health and diet isn't understood very well. There are a number of advocates for saturated fats over PUFAs, with some (but not universal) evidence to support it. It's entirely possible that it's a case of correlation vs causation, but nothing has been proven with certainty.
I am so sick of this. Everything is bad for you, horribly sourced, unsustainable, promotes slave labor, has/is “evil” gmo. No one is in agreement and there is so much bad information out there and what info there is is buried behind a pay wall in a scientific paper i don’t know is there, and do not have the time or energy to decipher. The wealth of all human knowledge could be at my finger tips but the only reliable info are cat pictures.
It is really hard to do a good studies on diet. You end up with one of two conclusions: "Despite our best efforts we were unable to get our test subjects to follow the required diet"; or "These results may not generalize to the general population who isn't confined to [a prison cell/hospital bed]".
We can study how one meal effects your body, but that isn't really helpful - Does it matter if some diet causes cholesterol to go up/down for a bit and then it returns? And cholesterol is one of those markers where we have enough studies to conclude that high is bad, but that doesn't necessarily mean that high for a bit and returning to low is also bad. Some things like smoking are such large effects that we can look at general population and make conclusions, but often the effect isn't that large and so it is believed that some diet is good/bad, but we cannot prove it from data we can collect.
The above is about actual science. Most mainstream diet books at best cherry pick some fact and then take it to an extreme to create some eating plan ignoring all evidence of other facts that might limit how far you can take this one. (that is assuming they start with a fact - just making up facts is common as well) The news media doesn't care to figure out what is real science and what is made up facts.
Right, but a concrete “we don’t know” from a source that is the end all of what a study finds is needed. Because right now everyone and their mother is a arbiter of the “truth” corporate interest and idiocy have choked all reputable data to death. You can not rely on journalists to interpret studies, as their motivation is based on money one way or another. Obviously there is a problem with corruption when that authority is centralized but right now either ignorance or malice is a given
Well the "promotes slave labor" and "horribly sourced" are not limited to food, and GMOs are fine.
Diet is definitely one of those things that's really hard to research though, because people are peddling snake oil constantly. I wish i had a solution.
Snake oil is the only healthy fat and should be consumed in massive quantities.
Maybe stop looking for people to tell you what to think, read the info first hand, at the source, and make your own conclusions?
It's not really bad for you; it only depends how long past about 30 you want to live. Evolution only cares to where our children could mostly live on their own, and then we were valueless.
The rest has to be done with diet, exercise, and using our brains to extend our species' lifespan.
But yeah: go crazy. Don't get vaxed, don't wear seatbelts. Don't eat as well as you can, don't work the heart and the joints and the muscles, don't foster and build relations for a strong community that cares for one another, don't contribute to education and medicine and safety and enrichment. You'll be fine...
.. until just after your evolutionary best-before date of about 30, if you did nothing to extend that.
I mean, I’m not concerned so much about what evolution wants. I am more concerned that i can make living not suck.
According to this article, It is generally recognized that high saturated fat intake is associated with heart disease.