200
American society wasn't always so car-centric. Our future doesn't have to be
(yaleclimateconnections.org)
this post was submitted on 22 Jan 2024
200 points (95.9% liked)
Fuck Cars
9636 readers
504 users here now
A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!
Rules
1. Be Civil
You may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.
2. No hate speech
Don't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.
3. Don't harass people
Don't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.
4. Stay on topic
This community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.
5. No reposts
Do not repost content that has already been posted in this community.
Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.
Posting Guidelines
In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:
- [meta] for discussions/suggestions about this community itself
- [article] for news articles
- [blog] for any blog-style content
- [video] for video resources
- [academic] for academic studies and sources
- [discussion] for text post questions, rants, and/or discussions
- [meme] for memes
- [image] for any non-meme images
- [misc] for anything that doesn’t fall cleanly into any of the other categories
Recommended communities:
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
To quote one of the commenters in the HN discussion:
I've straight up had people tell me that even if Public Transportation were convenient and consistent, they still wouldn't take it because Public Transportation is famous for being pretty dirty and having large potential for crime.
I'd like to have some sort of quick, easy solution, but I think changing that perception is going to take time, and the time the US is taking to revitalize Public Transportation isn't making that happen any faster.
So New York doesn’t have homeless people, drugs, and crime? Or is NYC not a high-density area? Or why are there 8 million trips daily?
No, it is not the barrier. It is one possible barrier, and if you want to remove all possible barriers before you start, guess what, you’ll never start.
“We need to have higher density! But we can’t have that because of parking minimums! But we can’t get rid of parking minimums because we have no public transport! But we can’t have public transport without higher density!” 🥳
Those people will always find a reason. Now it’s to dirty and unsafe. Now it’s too expensive. Now I relocated and the train doesn’t stop here.
Have you ever tried to drive around NYC? You can't. Too much traffic. Why do you think taxi cabs are so popular there if everyone wants to take the subway or a bus.
Passenger safety is a real barrier.
In my experience, people use taxis in NYC mostly because they are overwhelmed by transit. They find it easier to get a personal ride directly to their destination. I can read a sign and a map, and usually find it faster and more freeing to walk or take a train (then again, I have limited familiarity outside Manhattan and was disappointed by options in Staten Island and Long Island)
Taxis are popular because there’s too much traffic. Yeah, okay…
I'll just repeat myself, Why do you think NY taxi cabs are so popular there if everyone wants to take the subway or a bus?