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I guess we all kinda knew that, but it's always nice to have a study backing your opinions.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

What is Kati and is it actually good?

Edit:

Is it kagi?

https://kagi.com/

Seems like something I'd be into but I'm also not a fan of my search results being logged against me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

First time I've heard of them. I like the concept but 5$ a month for only 300 search makes me think that you'd still need another search engine on the side, or pay for the more expensive plan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The 300 searches goes pretty far because you usually get the correct result the first time.

Also you can just use hashbangs to search directly from a site like imdb, letterboxd, goodreads etc so those don't count against the 300 either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

also not a fan of my search results being logged against me

What do you mean? That you have an account so your searches are "linked" to you?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well luckily for you, they don't do that. It doesn't maintain a search history at all which has its pros and cons. The only reason you have to login to use it is to check your payment level to determine your feature access. It is nice that login also allows you to use the same settings for multiple devices. One of those settings I really like is hiding results from certain websites (e.g. pinterest).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds ideal, but there's no way we can ever truly know, is there?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can never truly know about almost any online service, you kinda just have to take their word for it, do some research, and pick the option that best matches both the performance and philosophy you're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yup, same reason I don't do VPN services. This is actually a perfect example of my concerns:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58476983

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

If privacy is your goal, Mullvad is the answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mullvad

They have been targeted by law enforcement and haven't given anything because they don't have anything to give.

Mullvad does not log VPN users': IP addresses, the VPN IP address used, browsing activity, bandwidth, connections, session duration, timestamps, and DNS requests

They don't even have user accounts, you just have an account number and you can buy more credits even by mailing cash to them if you're really gung-ho about being private. I usually just use my excess Bitcoin to top up when I need to use it (they give a 10% discount for blockchain purchases)

But if you need to get past geolocking or have huge download speeds for pirating, then they're not what you're looking for. I use Mullvad on my mobile router so every time I log in at a hotel or similar, all of my devices are behind VPN automatically

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Further reading for those who don't have a tinfoil hat yet

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Here's the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:

Lavabit is an open-source encrypted webmail service, founded in 2004. The service suspended its operations on August 8, 2013 after the U. S. Federal Government ordered it to turn over its Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) private keys, in order to allow the government to spy on Edward Snowden's email. Lavabit's owner and operator, Ladar Levison, announced on January 20, 2017 that Lavabit would start operating again, using the new Dark Internet Mail Environment (DIME), which is an end-to-end email encryption platform designed to be more surveillance-resistant.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I think they mean the fact they count each search you do, and depending on your pricing plan, can run out of searches in a month..

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I'm not worried about Kagi's privacy, the only thing you need to give them is an email address (which is kind of a no-brainer if they need to contact you).

You can pay with Bitcoin if you want more privacy.

And they don't even allow you to store your own search history, because they don't want to save it anywhere.

"Save My Search History Currently this option can not be turned on. Kagi does not save any searches by default. In the future we may add features that will utilize your search history and then we will allow you to enable this."