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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

The main series pokemon games have a move called Frustration which increases damage the less friendship the user has with their pokemon.

Why does this move exist in a game about friendship and loving the creatures you capture against their will? soviet-hmm

This problem could just be solved by making pokemon not real creatures in the world but just spirits. Unfortunately, it seems that pokemon society is not vegan so it's also canon that people just eat pokemon.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One game's villain has a pokemon that uses a maximum-damage Frustration. Friendship's default value isn't zero, meaning gamefreak has gone out of their way to say "this guy canonically abuses his pokemon"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, it seems that pokemon society is not vegan so it's also canon that people just eat pokemon.

It's way funnier than that. The Pokémon company has anthropomorphized Pokémon so much that they feel icky about killing them. But they also have chronic carnism brain. The result? They've recently designed a Pokémon with a limb that falls off so humans can harvest their meat without feeling bad. There's a scene in one of the shows where a character straight up drinks Shuckle juice from its orifices. Actually, that carnist design goes back a couple decades. People will literally come up with the most ridiculous explanations in their FANTASY world instead of just making it vegan.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Shuckles ferment berries in their shell it's not carnism but it is assault and robbery

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm just lumping in using other creatures' bodies for food under carnism.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's a scene in one of the shows where a character straight up drinks Shuckle juice from its orifices.

pooh-wtf

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

https://nitter.net/drifloonitic/status/1731546596503175664 yum

closest thing IRL would be drinking straight from a cow's udder

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Roast slowpoke tail pingu-horny

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

In that game the frustration move is bc the badguys did some evil techno-magic to the mons that makes them angry and aggressive, and if you treat the shadow pokemon well it will "open their hearts" and they'll lose the frustration move. It exists bc the bad guys hurt the pokemon's feelings to weaponize their alienation.

And making them spirits isn't any better. Kami aren't any less individuals with feelings than animals or pocket monsters.