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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Mentioning or highlighting these historical facts does of course not remove nuance. Excluding the many other factors at play however and focusing exclusively on this single issue does. And I see this happening a lot.

Politics should formulate utopian visions as long-term goals but must adhere to workability for getting there. Playing blame games and formulating maximum demands that have no chance of realisation in decades to come does not comply with this principle. Many discussions I see online are out of touch with this reality of politics IMO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From my perspective the people out of touch are the ones who are asking everyone else to disregard the extremely obvious horrors being perpetrated as if there's some nuance which ever could excuse what's happening.

The occupation is enforcing its "maximum demand" every day under the protection of the US and accepting that as a given is itself a position which you are taking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No, nuance would be for example to understand that while the US are a country with lots of influence and power, its president is actually not that powerful given the current situation. The president is bound by so many conflicting interests, contracts, party politics, strategic considerations etc. pp. that his leeway is probably quite small.

In my eyes it's not just out of touch with reality but also naive to think along the lines of: "Why don't the politicians just do the good thing? It's so simple, just do the good thing. Now because I care about this topic so much that I'm very disappointed that he hasn't used his supreme powers to change the world, I'm not gonna vote for him. Actions have consequences".

Sure, everyone is allowed to practice wishful thinking. But politics won't change.