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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's so interesting to me is that from much of what I've read - bombing civilian populations as a way to end a war has basically never worked. It was pushed heavily in WWII due to I think LeMay theories, but basically strengthened morale to stand up to the enemy instead.

Of course, not saying the Russians, or really anyone who gets into a war is necessarily behaving rationally, but this is sadly very destructive with very little history saying it'll help anyone achieve any goal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, in case of Ukrainians they know that if they surrender it still won't be over, the next thing will be killing them and moving them to far east until the Ukrainian identity is completely erased.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, in case of Ukrainians they know that if they surrender it still won’t be over, the next thing will be killing them

The constant refrain of "Russia wants to kill every Ukrainian". It's never made sense. There has never been any reason to believe that the goal is to kill Ukrainians.

Can you lay out exactly why you think that Russia will kill Ukrainians once the war is over? Can you lay out why you think the goal is to kill Ukrainians?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
  1. Putin was never hiding that in his opinion Ukraine has no particular cultural significance or uniqueness
  2. If you watch interviews of Muscovies they want to exterminate Ukrainians some people didn't even have problem with saying that Ukrainian children should be murdered
  3. there are already brutal attacks on Ukrainian civilians and many documented war crimes
  4. nearly a million of Ukrainian kids were kidnapped and sent to Muscovies, that's basically a textbook example of genocide

Do you believe things will get better if they have full control over Ukraine?