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You nerds trying to rehab this social imperialist need to read what he actually says. He's a chauvinist of the highest degree. Keep in mind NJR lives in a country that is at war currently with DPRK, has killed millions of Koreans & is an imperialist superpower.

Myers says that the DPRK’s governing ideology has been misunderstood by the United States. We think of it as “authoritarian communist,” thanks to its all-powerful state and various Stalinist trappings. But Myers says this is misleading: The regime is closer in character to fascism, because of its racism and nationalism (Stalinists have many unappealing qualities, but they do not build their ideology around race and nation). The communist elements, Myers says, are window dressing. Even Kim Il-Sung himself knew little about Marxism, and he dismayed the Russians when they quizzed him on it. And strictly speaking, the regime operates as a monarchy. Myers says that “socialism” is not the right term, because it doesn’t describe the self-image we see in the state’s propaganda, which heavily emphasizes the purity of North Koreans and their need for a protective parent-leader. Demick acknowledges that Kim Il-Sung “rejected traditional Communist teachings about universalism” and “was a Korean nationalist in the extreme” who treated Koreans almost as a “chosen people.”

For example, personally, I find Myers’ explanation appealing. If I’m being honest, though, that’s probably partly because it lumps Kim Jong Un in with right-wing fascists, and distances him from the left. I’ve always felt that “socialists” have no more responsibility for dictatorships that call themselves socialist than democratic republicans have for, well, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. Since I oppose dictatorships universally, pointing out that there have been “leftist” dictatorships poses no actual challenge to my politics. Instinctively, though, I confess that I’d feel relieved if Kim Jong Un was lumped in with the right rather than the left.

He is quoting Brian Reynolds Meyers and agreeing with him on the DPRK, even after admitting to knowing basically nothing about the country earlier in the article. Thousands of social imperialist nerds are reading this and nodding along, cementing their ridiculous chauvinist worldviews and failing their revolutionary duties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Reynolds_Myers

Brian Reynolds Myers (born 1963), usually cited as B. R. Myers, is an American professor of international studies at Dongseo University in Busan, South Korea, best known for his writings on North Korean propaganda. He is a contributing editor for The Atlantic and an opinion columnist for The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. Myers is the author of Han Sǒrya and North Korean Literature (Cornell, 1994), A Reader's Manifesto (Melville House, 2002), The Cleanest Race (Melville House, 2010), and North Korea's Juche Myth (Sthele Press, 2015).

Myers was born in New Jersey, near Fort Dix. His mother is British, and his father was a U.S. Army officer from Pennsylvania who served in South Korea as a military chaplain, often helping out local orphans.

Myers spent his childhood in Bermuda and his high school youth in apartheid-era South Africa, and received graduate education in West Berlin during the early 1980s, occasionally visiting East Germany. He earned an MA degree in Soviet studies at Ruhr University (1989) and a PhD degree in Korean studies with a focus on North Korean literature at the University of Tübingen (1992). Myers subsequently taught German in Japan and worked for a Mercedes-Benz liaison office in Beijing during the mid-1990s.

This guy is a Liberal. Stop trying to make NJR cool, he's never going to be cool

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Israel is just so cartoonishly evil right now it's impossible for anyone with any scruples to not at least somewhat defend it. I don't really give Libs credit for it anymore when they're total cowards in any other situation where the sides aren't quite that immediately blatant.

It's like people who despise full on Swastika-on-Face-Tattooed Nazis with a passion but then make apologia for the more subtle forms of white supremacy in society. It's easy to hate the most grotesque forms of oppression, if anything it gives cover for the more subtle yet pernicious forms of oppressions going on.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I was thinking about this when the US started bombing Yemen. Supporting Palestine - though essentially - is also “easy” in that Israel has been so monstrously barbarous, even people who have shitty opinions about stuff can’t deny that Israel is evil. I check out a lot of completely unhinged right wing Christofascist twitter accounts, and even they almost unanimously think Israel is committing a genocide.

But with Yemen, I see way more people just uncritically accept the line that they are “Iran-backed insurgents” and that bombing them is just normal and necessary to keep shipping lanes open. A better litmus test if someone is truly anti-imperialist. Even better than Ukraine was at first because Ukraine has some other political and racial elements going on. With Yemen, you just know there’s a huge chunk of white Americans who don’t know the first thing about Yemen, but they know it’s in the Middle East and Muslim and “they’re attacking American ships”; so their brain immediately goes to all the media they’ve consumed over the last 20 years about young, cool CIA agents or Delta Force operators always saving America from the evil Muslim terrorists in [Unnamed Arab or Central Asian Country], and just hand over their unthinking support to the US government.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Vaush and his fandoms relatively "good" position on Palestine faltered the second the Houthis started seizing ships. Now they're repeating a bunch of lines about how the Houthis are just pirates doing this for profit and how US "precision strikes" are justified. Also repeating the whole slavery claim with their only source being a Saudi funded news network.

I'm not exactly a Houthi Stan but Jesus, have some fucking skepticism about western narratives. The western "left" is worthless.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Another test I think re: Palestine is whether someone supports only a ceasefire in Gaza, or if they actually follow through on anti settler colonialism. Ceasefire is an easy position even for Zionists if the resistance begins kicking IDF ass too much

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

It’s also that Hamas/Palestine is now doing very limited damage to Israel, so it’s safe to call out Israel again, knowing that the status quo is well preserved.

You want to see the real masked off reaction of libs and soc dems, go back and read what they say during the first 2 weeks immediately following October 7th.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you drill into these squishier types about Palestine you will find they don’t support the abolition of Israel, decolonization, ending the occupation and they condemn Hamas. They have more in common with the PA and with the gulf states, who mouth condemnation of Israel but work against any actual justice for short term selfish goals. They don’t support armed Palestinian resistance, let alone the axis of resistance against US-backed fascist jihadist networks throughout the Middle East. They supported destroying Syria and Libya probably. They didn’t mind Obama drone striking 7 African countries.